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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I echo @nickelsearcher's question - does the real McCoy have that much value?
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That area along the rim by ONE could just be copper plating peel. John1  |
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United States
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does the sound it makes when dropped ring true? that is difficult to replicate on a coin made from two halves of others
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Pillar of the Community
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I hadn't thought about doing a tink test. So I gently dropped it on my desk as well as three zinc test coins. It sounds a slight bit lower, but doesn't have some unnatural thud or clunk to it. I'd say it sounds close enough to the real sound that using that test does not prove things one way or the other.
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United States
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I wish you could get better pictures of the edge around the area of FG where the rim looks split.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
6116 Posts |
The FG area is easy to photograph, but am doing so through the slip as this poor thing has already been in and out of slips a couple times now. It clearly shows the seam, but, this is also remarkably similar to what a MAD can look like. But if it were MAD, then the opposite rim would be weak, and in this case that is actually where the strongest rim is (note the deep shadow there compared to other parts of the rim).  |
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United States
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Might need Mike on this? John1 |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I wonder what is inside?  Open it!!   |
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I thought it was odd that the obverse has heavy plating issue lines and the reverse does not, they just typically mimic each other. I wonder if the reverse piece, if it is a fake, could be copper? It's the correct reverse design for an 85 but there are also coppers with this reverse design. No zinc is showing through on the high points either but if it's been in flips, that may have protected it.
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United States
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It's always nice to have Mike Diamond weigh in, but this seems very clearly to be a manufactured error rather than than a legit rotated die.
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I will simply boil this coin or heat at 120 deg. must melt the molding alloy. Sure if you has time to play with. I think it is another kind of magicians coins. Not worth to work so much for this coin as error.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Thanks for all the great comments on this one! But yes, it is a fake, so just reminding others to think about such things when buying purported error coins. And I collect the counterfeits so never try to acetone or boil them to prove they are fake. I like to keep them as someone made them.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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OK TROP, I will have to look at one point for my fake coins to send you. Use less for me.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I'll be happy to take them off your hands. I agree they are useless, but I really enjoy looking at the effort folks put into making them.
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Very interesting!  |
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