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And Now For Something Completely Different - 1944-P BU Nickel With Lams? Or What?

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 Posted 12/30/2022  6:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsearcher to your friends list
Adding my opinion that it all looks like delamination which is readily seen in the War Nickel series.

Especially the lamination on edge which has not yet peeled off.

Great photos indeed - they really show what is going on and make it so much more positive to offer informed opinions.

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 Posted 12/30/2022  6:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list
I'm on team lam/delam on this one too. Very nice @dear!
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 Posted 12/30/2022  6:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dearborn to your friends list
WOW, Cool - not one PMD in the 'opinion lot'! This is a great day. thanks all.

Just curious though, did the blue arc showing off the edge of the rim come in handy? (that was a pain to get right)
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 Posted 12/30/2022  6:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nick10 to your friends list
I could tell the coin was round due to the background, though instead of the arc a brighter background might have been more helpful, overall a very nice job with the pics
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 Posted 12/30/2022  6:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list
Rarely I see some such clear photos. No idea how you took, but look like back when I worked the medical photos was took.
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 Posted 12/30/2022  7:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dearborn to your friends list
Silvio, I have a Tomlov scope for the close-ups, and just my cell phone for full coin images.: I connect the scope to my PC and save them directly to the PC from the scope
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All the imperfections on the left side appear to be the result of delaminating metal. The thin line on the right may be a die crack or a lamination crack -- I can't tell from the photos. If it is a die crack, it's obviously unrelated to the defects on the left side.
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 Posted 12/30/2022  9:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dearborn to your friends list
I think the line in the middle may be a lamination - it seems to lift up in 2 different directions. I'll post up better images tomorrow when I have better lighting.
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 Posted 12/30/2022  10:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list
I do 'it the photo. Seem the upper to be delamination and funny has continuity a Die Crack
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 Posted 12/30/2022  11:04 pm  Show Profile   Check datadragon's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add datadragon to your friends list
Nice photos. These War Nickels were changed to 56% copper, 35% silver and 9% manganese from 25% nickel and 75% copper previously and this copper, silver, and manganese alloy was found later to be difficult to work with despite the initial benefit findings that it would still work in the eras vending machines both by weight of coin and is also checked by its electrical properties. Lamination problems and irregular oxidation of the coins are found to be common with the War Nickels. I would consider both sides to be lamination errors (delamination) and the middle lamination does have the appearance more like a die crack further down but is actually a lamination crack. Over the years many varieties and errors have also been discovered on Wartime Nickels so its also a good series to look through because most dealers and collectors never consider the error/varieties on these.
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Great pics!
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Great pics and interesting conversation, Dearborn. I don't really have anything to add other than I have the same Tomlov scope, but with everything going on the past months at home I've not really made much use of it. I'll have to get back on that...
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 Posted 12/31/2022  1:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dearborn to your friends list
Ok with better lighting, I managed to get a better of the bit lam on the rim:
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and I think the thing down the middle of the coin is the start of a lam - you can see separation in spots, all the way down to the rim as it passes through the M of America (which also has a lam too.
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 Posted 12/31/2022  2:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list
Excellent, I stay with my statement for the middle right side been a combinations of delamination with a Die Crack. Nice coin and very interesting. Thanks Dear to post this one here.
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