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Bedrock of the Community
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And now a different color!
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Pillar of the Community
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Are you suggesting that the first coin was altered to remove the MM or perhaps a transfer die was used to eliminate the MM? The second coin does look softly struck compared to the first coin and the MM area if tooled, isn't noticeable to my eyes. I would assume that the second coin was produced from a transfer die using the first one as the host coin. Indeed a good observation by nss-52.
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The mint mark was removed, and the coin re-toned. I do not know how it was done. If they wanted to use a die transfer method, why not just get a genuine 1922 no-D and use that as the host? Another example:  Show your financial support of the Coin Community Family (click here)See my topic on Mexican Numismatic Medals (click here) |
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Forum Dad
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8 or 10 hours in a rock tumbler with some sand might do this.
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Pillar of the Community
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Interesting. In your first example, the grunge inside IGWT and the date is gone—it hardly looks like the same coin despite the identical markings. Does the reverse also have identical bag marks?
And were the two 1922 no D examples sold by the same seller?
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Bedrock of the Community
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Thank you, nss-52, for this informative post and thread. 1922 no D is the only empty spot in my Lincoln album for these very reasons.
Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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02/03/2023 1:13 pm
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Good info posted here, thanks Nss!
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Personally, I would only acquire one of these in a TPG slab - even if I intended to crack it out for an album. Take a look at my other hobby ... http://www.jk-dk.art |
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Pillar of the Community
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They are getting really good at this.
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Bedrock of the Community
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You wouldn't be fooled if you knew the well-established varieties, but this is convincing indeed.
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Quote:
You wouldn't be fooled if you knew the well-established varieties The forger would be out of business if the buyers did their research before buying. Show your financial support of the Coin Community Family (click here)See my topic on Mexican Numismatic Medals (click here) |
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Pillar of the Community
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 Thank you nss-52. They are good and quick. |
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Pillar of the Community
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Remarkably good job there. But seems the original seller or ebay could identify the seller of the altered coin and out them. Stopping the producers of such coins would be more helpful than just stopping a single coin sale. |
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How would you suggest ebay stop the producer? Show your financial support of the Coin Community Family (click here)See my topic on Mexican Numismatic Medals (click here) |
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Pillar of the Community
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I don't really know what kind of process they might have for doing such a thing. It may even be against their policy to get involved in such things as corporate lawyers would be looking to prevent actions that would lead to possible exposure to the company itself. Out of my zone to know just how it would be done, but that just seems like pretty clear evidence of counterfeiting.
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