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One Dollar 1795, In Bad Condition. Is It Worth Buying?

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 Posted 04/17/2023  09:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kanga to your friends list

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Personally I would never buy one of these unless it was authenticated.

Excellent point.
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 Posted 04/17/2023  09:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Fake? I you could fake a coin that well, why would you take a chunk out of the rim?
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 Posted 04/17/2023  11:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slider23 to your friends list
If the OP coin is a counterfeit, please explain as it matches a B1. See photos below of a genuine example that matches the same variety. On obverse note hair curl touches #1 star and date position is the same. On reverse note 9 berries on left and 10 on right, and R touches the wing tip.

Frog makes a valid point about the chunk out of the rim as counterfeiters do not typically devalue their work by adding problems.

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 Posted 04/17/2023  1:18 pm  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list
Absolutely worth buying ( at the right money!! ).
Then it needs a trip to get repaired .
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 Posted 04/17/2023  1:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TimNH to your friends list

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The coin is a flat out FAKE.


I wish people wouldn't say stuff like that without giving a reason. Educate us please?
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 Posted 04/17/2023  2:13 pm  Show Profile   Check Zurie's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list
Very attractive coin, great candidate for a repair. I don't see anything that would suggest it's not genuine.
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 Posted 04/17/2023  3:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ExoGuy to your friends list
I'm in the genuine camp and think it's a good buy at that asking price. Also, it's a great candidate for the repair shop! If only it had some more damage, like a counterstamp or two, I'd buy it!!

My guess is that this dollar was once utilized as a watch fob or jewelry item. The position of the damage suggests that a clasp or other attachment may have later been removed so as to restore its coin status for circulation.
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 Posted 04/17/2023  5:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dsking to your friends list
That big ole rim ding would do it for me. It would be a no-go. A repaired coin ranks right up there with cleaned coins for my collection...nope!

All that said, if the price is right and you want to spend that kind of money on her then that is certainly your choice. However, it should be authenticated first!! I'm not saying anything about it being fake but, those huge dollar coins should always be authenticated.
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 Posted 04/18/2023  01:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
If the chance of buying a known genuine example of a 1795 Dollar in this condition, or even worse, came my way, I would jump at it.

Well above of my pay scale to get a better example in significantly higher grade.
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 Posted 04/18/2023  09:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mrwhatisit to your friends list
Making this a hot topic on a hot coin, for me on my budget, $1000 for a in demand coin like this would be a buy it now immediately (appears genuine to my eyes ) because damaged/details coins are one of the only ways some of us collectors can actually afford rare coins. I would be quite happy if this coin resided in my collection... Though I would prefer this one in a major TPG slab myself just to confirm authenticity...
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 Posted 04/18/2023  7:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jecz79 to your friends list
Speaking of fakes. Without very good photos I would be afraid of a cast fake if buying online.

The break in the rim may hide the place of the metal channel.
The worn out surfaces have much pitting when the field shows none. Suspicious. Bubbles from casting?
I too would be afraid to buy without checking in hand.
Saw too many fakes of all kinds of coins.
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 Posted 04/19/2023  8:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fenton to your friends list
I wouldn't buy it unless authenticated. Perhaps you can agree to pay the grading cost and have the seller send it away to be slabbed. If in a details holder then I think it's a very attractive example.
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 Posted 04/19/2023  8:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
It's no doubt attractive - just comes down to whether you can live with a damaged specimen.
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 Posted 04/22/2023  08:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alpha33 to your friends list

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If the OP coin is a counterfeit, please explain as it matches a B1. See photos below of a genuine example that matches the same variety. On obverse note hair curl touches #1 star and date position is the same. On reverse note 9 berries on left and 10 on right, and R touches the wing tip.


Tell you all what, If someone on this forum buys this coin and submits it and the coin comes back as "genuine or genuine details", I will pay for the slab!
If it comes back in a body bag as anything other than "genuine or genuine details", ie., fake/counterfeit or the like, everyone here that responded in the positive to this coin, all send me ten bucks.
I'm willing to put my money where my mouth is, are you?
Alpha 33 over.............................




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