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Please show us full, large pics of both sides of each coin, one per thread.  to the CCF! |
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Cracking out coins and resubmitting is fairly common, but you just have to keep in mind the total cost of the regrading and shipping versus any potential return on a possible bump in grade. Getting a 3-point plus bump in grade may be a bit optimistic, but some pictures would enable us to give some real advice. Regarding conservation by the grading services, I don't personally have any experience with that but I know there are others on the forum who do. Again, pictures of the coins in question would be very useful. Member of SPMC, FCCB, ANA and ANS. My U.S. Classic Commemorative Complete Set: https://www.NGCcoin.com/registry/co...sets/278741/My U.S. Fractional Note Set: https://notes.www.collectors-societ...eSetID=34188 |
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I have a full set of Peace dollars. Going from MS62 (graded) to MS 65 is a stretch. Does it happen? Yes once in a while but rarely. For MS65 you are looking at a GEM coin which means no distracting marks and a very clean strike. Post some pictures but its doubtful many if any will go from MS62 to MS 65. |
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Been a busy day. I'm going to really look through them tonight and try to upload some photos! Thanks for being so interested, I don't personally know anyone that gets as excited about coins so this is really great.
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If they were already graded a long time ago, it seems like you'd have a reason to have a TPG conserve them now. Is there a reason? If so, ANACS is by far the cheapest - $59 flat rate per 20 coin submission and they decide which coins merit it. NGC and PCGS charge a % of each coin's value, which could be quite expensive. ANACS did a great job on mine and before/after pics of one are in this thread http://goccf.com/t/163668&whichpage=2I agree with the above that bumping from 62 to 65 is a stretch. Conservation, in theory at least, isn't going to improve the grade. |
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Appears that the Peace dollar is in an older ANACS soapbox holder. Those are usually accurately graded from my experience. The morgan is an AU coin. Suffering from bust half fever. Want to learn how to attribute early half dollars by die variety? Click Here: http://goccf.com/t/434955Shoot me a PM if you are looking to sell bust halves. |
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From the hologram, it's ANACS under Amos Press ownership towards the middle-late period. That would be early 1990s market grading (vs. the technical grading of the ANA ownership period). With today's better understanding of strike weakness and with gradeflation, I'd say MS63 with a shot at MS64 but not MS65. -----Burton 50+ year / Life / Emeritus ANA member (joined 12/1/1973) Life member: Numismatics International, CONECA Member: TNA, FtWCC, NETCC, EveryCountry (online) coin club Owned by three cats and a wife of 40+ years (joined 1983) Author: 3rd Edition of the Sample Slabs book, https://www.sampleslabs.info/ |
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The Morgan is in a cardboard 2x2.
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first I dont believe in slabbing I think its a waste of money. the Peace dollar may upgrade a tad as it was probably a 63 coin but downgraded due to eye appeal, there is only about a $40 retail difference between a 62 and 64 so whats the cost of shipping, insurance, regrading and conservation? whats it buying you? the morgan looks mid to high AU and not worth slabbing. imo there are only two reasons to slab 1. you have a rarer coin that you want authenticated and conserved 2. you are planning on selling the coin and it has a value more than $150 |
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Since the one you posted is already ANACS, it's not going to cost you that much to go to ANACS with all of them if you have 10 or more. Their monthly special is $129 for 10 coins valued less than $500 each, $13 each additional coin. Depending on value the shipping charge would be around $50. If there's a show close to you, submit in person and save the cost of shipping to ANACS. Toss in the conservation for $59 and if you did 20 coins your total is $368 = $18.40 per coin.
Of course, your 1922 is only worth $60 retail so it's not really worth sinking even $18 into it, but that's up to you. It might be a fun experiment.
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Morgans are not Peace dollars. Also the eye appeal on your Peace dollar really kills any value. It would need to get dipped to remove all that ugly toning. I don't believe the coins would merit regrading. Edited by hfjacinto
05/03/2023 1:39 pm
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There's zero chance these will regrade to gem Coins.
I'm genuinely curious, why do you believe these will upgrade to a 65 minimum, possibly higher?
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Edited by NumismaticsFTW
05/03/2023 2:48 pm
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@Linkthesink, I appreciate your excitement about your recent collection, congrats!.
As others have noted above these coins are not worth regrading. I would suggest that they may be worth more in the older ANACS holders than they will ever be in a new PCGS / NGC / ANACS holder.
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We've only seen two coins of the collection. While these two particular coins may not warrant regrading, what about the others we haven't seen yet? Seems premature, since there are quite a few Morgan and Peace dollars that have significant price jumps between MS62-MS63 or MS62-MS64. I would only regrade or cross over the key dates in Unc (24S, 27D/S, 28/28S, and especially 34S) and make sure to choose "upgrade only" so they do not run the risk of being re-holdered in a lower grade. Otherwise, it's not financially beneficial to pay for reholder/regrade unless the difference in price between grades justifies the expense. e.g. you have a 1927-D in MS62, you think it's a 63 or even a 64, that would be worth it, but a 1922 or 1923 would not. The old ANACS small white holders in and of themselves carry a slight premium and they will be of interest to collectors in those holders. Unlike Morgans, most Peace dollars did not "tone pretty", but I'd still rather have that original toning vs. a dip job. Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis |
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