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They had problems with rusty dies from Day 1 Rusty dies, huh! That could explain some of the texture on the fields. Thanks Hondo. (I'm stoked on this one - I got this one for under $400.00, and with only 720,000 minted, make me wonder how many actually survive today..) |
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Dearborn, you did very well! As for the conditions in the New Orleans Mint at that time, please read the following. I live in south Louisiana, and can attest to the oppressive conditions here in the summer months. It's beyond brutal without air conditioning and I am amazed that they were able to produce any coins whatsoever. https://www.PCGS.com/news/the-new-o...int-part-oneInordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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05/05/2023 10:22 pm
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Thanks Hondo, great read.  |
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I'm at EF45++ only due to the granularity on the obverse, the rim chunk missing and the weakness on the rims. The reverse is AU IMO, however, over all the obverse has to give a bit more weight to the final total grade. A very tough piece in any thing above F anyways so a nice pickup, and a great addition to a collection.
"Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2˘ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440 |
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Agree with Westcoin, I'm not seeing any luster to warrant AU. I see at as XF-45 with an obverse rim nick. Probably enough to details it. A difficult series to grade. If you compare to PCGS Photograde, the reverses are difficult to grade because they look the same from VF-30 to XF-45. The obverse shows the difference though. Still a nice coin to add to your 7070. Congrats!
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Nice, scarce date and mint but no way is that AU.....VF 30 maybe, but no way is it AU. Here is my idea of an XF/AU..........My 2˘   |
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Okay, okay! I'll go sit in the corner.
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-----Burton 50+ year / Life / Emeritus ANA member (joined 12/1/1973) Life member: Numismatics International, CONECA Member: TNA, FtWCC, NETCC, EveryCountry (online) coin club Owned by three cats and a wife of 40+ years (joined 1983) Author: 3rd Edition of the Sample Slabs book, https://www.sampleslabs.info/ |
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Alpha said Quote:
Here is my idea of an XF/AU..........My 2˘ Don't you mean 3˘?  But that is a real beauty, Alpha! Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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Alpha, yours is a type 1 1852 version and NOT from New Orleans. In 1851 when New Orleans made this 3˘ piece, the mint there had lots of weak strikes and rusty dies, Please don't try to compare an apple with an orange. My coin is in AU condition (ALMOST Uncirculated) considering the issues the mint had back then.. The mint had to continually grease up the dies due to the extreme high humidity and no Air conditioning to protect as best they can to prevent the rust that occurred anyway.
Did you even look at the other GRADED examples I posted up above for a comparison of this coin 'of the same year and mint'
Yes, my coin dies have a few issues, like hits and dins, but the grade is determined by the amount of wear not the hits. you have to take into account the conditions at which these coins were struck.
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05/06/2023 12:54 pm
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Quote:VG? c'mon Frog, you can give me a bit more than that. These coins were not struck up very well to begin with. ebay item number: 155210182444 Graded at AU50 and shows much less details than mine. ebay item number: 195612912945 Graded at AU58 and shows a bit more details than mine Then there is this one Graded by PCGS at MS65 and mine looks WAY better with more detail than this one: ebay item number: 385589555591 Some people put WAYYYYY too much faith in the TPG's. Yes, they are very good at detecting counterfeits. But they stink at grading with any sort of consistency. Except being consistently all over the place. I stand by my assessment. VF30 My 2˘ |
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Perhaps one of our resident EAC experts will weigh in on this.
Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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That is a great idea Hondo.
And I appreciate your 2˘ Alpha, and thanks for chiming in. I love a good conversation.
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There is one, and only one person here that needs to be happy. |
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