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Is The Joy Of Numismatics Over?

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 Posted 06/19/2023  7:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add publius to your friends list
I really enjoy going through my accumulated coins, taking them out, laying them on a tray, looking at them. It's something I haven't done nearly enough of lately.

As a collector of mostly world type coins, the uncritical sort of fellow who buys things because they look pretty or have an interesting story behind them, I guess I'm less vulnerable to the ennui that affects the date-and-mint US collector who's always searching for that one "key" in a micrometrically better state of preservation, who sees the price going up and up as pieces go into slabs, and get broken out of slabs and sent for re-slabbing at a higher grade as the TPGs compete with each other, reminiscent of the way that ratings agencies rushed to give AAA+ to mortgage-backed securities in 2007. (Most people don't even seem to know about the origin of the 70-point scale, which is not correctly used to assign grades of preservation to modern US coins, much less any other kind.)

I mean, the other day I paid $11 for a Slovakia 50 korun 1944. It's a coin with an interesting history — ugly, but interesting! And the excellent workmanship one expects from the Kremnica mint. (I must visit there someday.) It had a small green spot on the obverse which came off with the application of a Q-tip dipped in distilled water. It made me happier than any Jefferson nickel I could buy for that price would! A few weeks ago, a friend-of-a-friend gave me a handful of "old foreign money" she had rattling around. Nothing valuable by anybody's standards, but the surprisingly large octagonal Malta 25˘ piece from the 1970s is a fascinating contrast with the thick slug of the 2003 Swedish 10 Kr.

The deluge of modern collector-bait, and the low standards of design and workmanship of so many modern issues, are certainly depressing. When I'm in Europe, I find that I usually spend the commemorative €2 coins. It's the regular issue pieces from the smaller countries that I pick out to save. Some of them are beautiful as well as novel.
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 Posted 06/20/2023  11:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list
An interesting perspective. Thank you for sharing it!
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 Posted 06/20/2023  3:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jpsned to your friends list

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That folder brings back some memories! Yes, I do have fond memories of my folder days. Too bad I ruined it with my Dansco albums. I still have the folders though.


Mind you, the quarter folder isn't the only thing that keeps me going. I'm going on 50 years of collecting and am still working on several other folders, namely Lincolns, Jeffersons, Roosevelts and recent Washingtons. Living in MA, it's mostly modern "D" dates I'm missing. Every time I think I'm going to give up hope, a missing "D" does pop up. That's the fun of it!
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 Posted 06/20/2023  4:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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Every time I think I'm going to give up hope, a missing "D" does pop up. That's the fun of it!
Living in SC for 35+ years, I get it!
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 Posted 06/20/2023  8:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumisEd to your friends list

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mean, the other day I paid $11 for a Slovakia 50 korun 1944. It's a coin with an interesting history — ugly, but interesting!


Don't think that is an ugly coin.
However, the Franklin half.... well....
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 Posted 06/20/2023  8:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list
I think it is easier for world coin collectors to not get bored or discouraged. There is always some niche that is overlooked. You can always learn more about world history even if you aren't buying the coins from the place.
I don't collect modern coins, so the proliferation of all those shiny objects that have been mentioned is irrelevant to my
collecting habits, and amuses me more than bothers me ("to each their own").
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 Posted 06/20/2023  9:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add publius to your friends list

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Don't think that is an ugly coin.


Naw, the reverse design is beautiful if simple (it really shows up well on the lower denominations), the obverse is undistinguished, the overall coin is excellent as one would expect from the Kremnica mint. It's the history of it, the Nazi puppet state of Slovakia (with a defrocked priest as figurehead), that's ugly. Controversy repeatedly arose in the US over anti-communists and Slovakian nationalists trying to praise the "independent Slovakia" of 1939—45.
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 Posted 06/20/2023  9:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumisEd to your friends list
Isn't that the beauty of collecting coins? As in your example, the history that such a "simple" 50 Korun coin represents and tells, is fascinating.
And don't forget, it is easy to pass judgement in hindsight. Not to mention something about stones and glass houses.
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 Posted 06/21/2023  09:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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I think it is easier for world coin collectors to not get bored or discouraged.
Expanding my world coin collection is forever on my list. I feel it will be the last thing remaining after everything else has been crossed off.
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 Posted 06/21/2023  10:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Collects82 to your friends list
Yesterday during lunch, I had to make a run to an errand. There is a LCS a block away that I've never been to because their hours are M-TH to 5 and half days on Friday, closed weekends. I'm simply never in that part of town when they are open. But yesterday, I had 15 minutes and my great opportunity.

I was thrilled to see a pretty decent selection of classic stuff. On the bottom shelf, I spotted a buffalo in the back corner that appeared to have some nice toning. It was great in hand and they offered a very reasonable price on it. I already have a couple pretty 1913 T1, but at this price and quality, $40 was an impulse 100% worth it.

I took the buff back to the office and showed it to a few of my colleges.

Getting home and putting it into my binder and looking at my other 1913 T1, it might be the nicest grade+color. I have zero regrets on this impulse!

There will always be a simmering joy to be had in this hobby. Always new things to be found or learned that bring a slice of happiness on a given day.
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 Posted 06/21/2023  12:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CalzoneManiac to your friends list
You can still build a complete set of Jefferson nickels (including the key dates) from just coin roll hunting if you hunt enough boxes. Until that stops being possible, I don't think the joy of numismatics will ever truly be dead.
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 Posted 06/28/2023  6:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jecz79 to your friends list

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Personally I think the main danger to our hobby is the relentless striking of pseudo-commemoratives, often in the names of pseudo-countries.


The real countries do it worse. France has been dumping torrents of commemoratives. Of whatever anywhere.

There is refuge in historical coins.
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 Posted 06/29/2023  10:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add publius to your friends list

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The real countries do it worse. France has been dumping torrents of commemoratives. Of whatever anywhere.


I don't even think of those French pieces as commemorative coins, although they do have money denominations on them. I bought one of their 333 silver pieces in a commemorative folder, with a motif from the "Asterix" comics, for a friend because I thought she'd find it amusing — but as a coin collector I have no interest in them!
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 Posted 07/14/2023  12:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TinyRetreat to your friends list
While appraising a collection recently (estate seller request) I found several counterfeits. How ? Weight, composition test and a good look with the loop ... they were fake Morgans that the owner had put into 2x2 and labeled them thinking they were authentic.

My emotional reaction was "too bad / so sad" ... my coin guy reaction was "HA, gotcha" ... pleased to get them out of the market.
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