Thanks for your added feedback Westcoin. Sorry you found it to not work as well for you in all occasions and needed two staplers. I dont find the smaller to be any issue in usage or hard on the hands as it uses the thumb to push down lightly, and being both more transportable rather than stay in one place and having the smaller width staples in comparison to the larger model seemed to work better for 2x2s to avoid issues with coins is what I mostly found more beneficial, while still able to do regular stapling here and there. I can imagine if you do a ton of regular stapling more than for coin 2x2s the full size might work better in those cases with the full size staples. I heard about this stapler around 10 years ago, there was a video also from 12 years ago below.
Quote: I found it almost impossible to open it up to get the coin out.
Jbuck raises an important issue and also where I think most of the damage on coins with staples comes from - while removing them from 2x2 stapled Mylar holders. Most people tend to pull them apart leaving the staples sticking out where they can easily scratch a coin as it is slid out of from between the Mylar sides. Some will try to remove the staples or at least one or two of the three staples to slide the coin out though one side, while this is fine and it removes the pointy sharp staple sticking out towards the face of the coin, it poses another issue, slipping with the tool you are using to pry the staple out with, the tool (small flat head screwdriver usually) can slip and gouge the coin making an even worse problem than a small staple scratch would cause. I think I found the best way to remove the coin from an old 2x2 Mylar holder leaving very little chance of damage to the coin if done with care and slowly. I use a razor blade or an x-acto knife to very carefully cut around the Mylar on one side about half of the hole, then over a velvet pad or soft towel just push the coin out from the other side. Not to say I suppose you could damage the coin with the blade if not careful, just go slow and if you do happen to touch the coin with it you should only contact the edge and not the main surface side. Of course the 2x2 Mylar holder is now trash and unusable, I don't care as I don't re-use them anyway. Some older holders I photographed after removing coins, when I figured out my x-acto knife removal trick, yep I scratched one a copper/bronze Two Cent coin, which of course showed up rather obviously. You can see I had removed staples on some of them then the last few I switched to cutting the Mylar, haven't had an issue since then. I usually have around this many holders to deal with twice a month or more. Some are my own I am re-holdering after opening them for photography or ones I bought off ebay or elsewhere and need to acetone them, and make them match consistently with my other coins.
One more security tip, save up all the coin trash (old 2x2 holders and inserts, etc) in a bag, then make sure there is no identifying information that ties anything inside of it back to you or your address. Take it with you next time you go out, getting gas or coffee and dispose of it discreetly away from home in a dumpster or trash can. Leave no evidence of coin collecting in your trash at home is a good thing.
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Quote: I think I found the best way to remove the coin from an old 2x2 Mylar holder leaving very little chance of damage to the coin if done with care and slowly. I use a razor blade or an x-acto knife to very carefully cut around the Mylar on one side about half of the hole, then over a velvet pad or soft towel just push the coin out from the other side.
Similar to what I do. This is why I put my coins in holders that are the next size up. It gives me a little more room between the cardboard and the coin's edge.
I have noticed some dealer never staple the hinge side of the 2x2. Since these holders are usually more matched to the coin size, I find it easier to cut a slit down the hinge, squeeze, and the coin slides out (onto the towel, of course). I could get by without the fourth staple, but more often than not the up-sized holder requires it to put more pressure on the Mylar to hold the coin in place.
Quote: I use the same method - I just cut the Mylar enough to get the coin out.
Quote: Similar to what I do. This is why I put my coins in holders that are the next size up. It gives me a little more room between the cardboard and the coin's edge.
See great minds think alike! 90% or more of my 2x2 Mylar holders are for the Two Cent Pieces, so I use the Quarter sized holders. close enough and as jbuck states enough room to safely cut them out. Most of the ones I do use on other denominations seem to have enough room so as not to crowd the coin, the dime size being the exception, and the dollar sized there sometimes is not enough cardboard I feel, but the size of a dollar coin is pushing the 2x2 limit as it is.
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Interesting conversation. This is how I'm removing coins at the moment using the smaller staples and just cutting them off with scissors usually on two sides, although I do have the RZ-F stapler remover they make which also works for the smaller sized staples but not needed in this case. Grabbed a cent out of the bag and stapled it for the example.
Cant resist, cutting always seems to be beneficial
I keep a Victorinox Swiss Champ knife in my desk drawer. The small knife blade is perfect for lifting the ends of staples then extracting the staple from the other side (always point it away from the coin!). The pliers are perfect for smashing down staples on 2X2s obtained from those uncouth individuals who don't use a flat clinch or mash the staples themselves.
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Purchased Max Flat Clinch on Amazon as I had rewards coming to me. It arrived last night, and it works perfectly. It is smooth operating and accurate. Love the flat lay into the two by two. Easy to handle and feels good in the hand. Thanks for the advice everyone, I am happy with this purchase.&
Quote: Purchased Max Flat Clinch on Amazon as I had rewards coming to me. It arrived last night, and it works perfectly. It is smooth operating and accurate. Love the flat lay into the two by two. Easy to handle and feels good in the hand. Thanks for the advice everyone, I am happy with this purchase.
Glad you found something that works for your needs Looks like you went with the handheld HD-11 since you mention feels good in the hand? or did you get the desktop Max HD-50F? Either way these are great staplers for this purpose if anyone reading who comes across this later and needs one also.
Regarding removing flat-clinch staples from a 2x2, my preferred way is to use miniature needle nose pliers to straighten the legs of the staples and then pull them out. I find it quicker and safer than using a knife blade or some other prying tool. Doesn't damage the 2x2, either, and I've gotten pretty good at hitting the same holes when I re-staple the holder closed after examining the coin .
Quote: Regarding removing flat-clinch staples from a 2x2, my preferred way is to use miniature needle nose pliers to straighten the legs of the staples and then pull them out. I find it quicker and safer than using a knife blade or some other prying tool. Doesn't damage the 2x2, either, and I've gotten pretty good at hitting the same holes when I re-staple the holder closed after examining the coin
Yes you and Hondo Boguss are real MacGyvers. I just either use the RZ-F staple remover I have that they sell https://www.maxusacorp.com/office_p...oducts/rz-f/ or because I use the smaller staples that come with the smaller stapler I can just cut the corners off with scissors also as mentioned if I'm just removing the coin and dont need to reuse the holder like for an examination/photo. Whatever works, I enjoy reading what others do as we all can pick up tips here and there.
datadragon, I have a similar Swingline staple remover that I picked up for a buck at an estate sale. The push-slide is a removed staple ejector, which is handy. It's sometimes difficult to slide it under staples that have been hammered in place. I also have a velociraptor-type one - the sqeezy jaws kind that mangles 2X2s.
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Quote: datadragon, I have a similar Swingline staple remover that I picked up for a buck at an estate sale. The push-slide is a removed staple ejector, which is handy. It's sometimes difficult to slide it under staples that have been hammered in place. I also have a velociraptor-type one - the squeezy jaws kind that mangles 2X2s.
Cool hondo, a buck is a great deal. It seems close to the RZ-F I have, I just bought it since it was made by the same company as the stapler and I wasnt sure at that time if the velociraptor many have would work as well for the smaller size staples or cause issues with the 2x2s and coins within. Heres a video I just found of the RZ-F but I do have it here with me (not in storage) if anyone needs photos or such. I just havent used it as often as I thought once I realized I could cut the staples off if not reusing the 2x2 such as a temp inspect/photo. https://www.mybinding.com/max-compa...er-rz-f.html
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