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Bedrock of the Community
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We just invent different varieties of extra V.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Like seeing animal shapes in the clouds.
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@ Coinfrog
Dangerous animals LOL, not also by the clouds please. I will not be able to slip in the forest.
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The extra "V" is not the same size as the real one. But the roller lines running through and inside the anomaly have me considering that it isn't PSD either. Words of encouragement are one of the major food groups.
We need to consume them regularly to thrive and grow.
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Possibly a rotated die clash of the inside of the "A" in STATES? A full coin shot of the obverse and reverse would be good.  -makecents-
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Possibly a rotated die clash Um, no. a) no amount of rotation would but the "A" where the "V" appears. b) a die clash would produce a raised area, not an incuse area. Show your financial support of the Coin Community Family (click here)See my topic on Mexican Numismatic Medals (click here) |
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We have seen lots of the 'extra V' cents so far, but I think this is not one of them, I think that it is just a circulation hit. The original extra V is incuse and was said to be invariant (same on all coins) across a large sample and therefore Mike Diamond thinks its somehow an intentionally modified working hub therefore striking all the coins the same as each other. If further examples appear that are different than that one but are also all identical to each other (no variance), this could point to another separately modified working hub. However if the examples continue to vary, I had mentioned ejection impact doubling is known to produce these type of extra letters in variable positions and distance and Mike Diamond responded to that saying also that: " Machine Doubling and ejection impact doubling both produce extra elements in variable positions." So at the moment additional examples will help with whats going on. Yes as Dearborn mentioned of course there can be circulation hits but so far that may not be the case here. I also learned that new Schuler MRH horizontal coin minting presses are used now. One link said there may even be differences in the different models being used in the feeding and ejecting components as well and says the mint uses the Schuler MRH 150 (horizontal) for quarters. So someone with knowledge of these at some point might be able to learn how those type of errors might happen. 2023-P Bessie Coleman quarters with doubled initials seem to be having ejection impact doubling but not sure if the press for the cents is even the same. Edited by datadragon
06/13/2023 08:46 am
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Um, no.
a) no amount of rotation would but the "A" where the "V" appears.
b) a die clash would produce a raised area, not an incuse area. Just spit balling. May be nothing at all. As far as rotation, it could be a die that was dropped on the other and rotation would be out the window. I cannot tell if it is in relief or incuse in this pic. To me, it looks to oppose the VDB though and we know it's incuse. Regardless, it would be nice to have a clear pic of the obverse and reverse. -makecents-
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... no amount of rotation would but the "A" where the "V" appears. ... But a dropped letter could produce an incuse "A" (STATES) that was out of alignment. Words of encouragement are one of the major food groups.
We need to consume them regularly to thrive and grow.
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Here is the full coin where the V can be seen on the obverse. I am unfamiliar with all the possibilities here!   |
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datadragon, rookie question here on ejection doubling. Can you get ejection doubles of the reverse on the obverse, or vice versa? It seems that a particular face of a coin is far more likely to strike the die that minted it. Is there even enough room in the collar and the press to flip heads over tails?
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Thank you for the full coin shots,flatlander745 but cannot really tell much from these, nothing obvious stick out to me.
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