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1976 Ike Silver Dollar No Mint Mark Type 2

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 Posted 09/01/2023  1:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CitizenZero to your friends list
Oh and it does pass the Ole tissue test but I am under the impression bradford doesn't sell fake coins so it's silver ight looks just like the one on pgcs
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 Posted 09/01/2023  1:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list
It's not silver. The "COA" means "silver dollar" in the generic sense, people call Ikes "silver dollars" all the time but it's not literal. Note the actual "slab" says absolutely nothing about silver. This is just more overpriced garbage for the Bradford "Mint."
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 Posted 09/01/2023  1:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CitizenZero to your friends list
Ayyye Bobby boy when I get home shortly ill post the actual certificate for this specific coin that's says this coin is 99.9% silver used in its composition as far as whether it's 80 or 40 percent of the coin is silver I'll get right back to you
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 Posted 09/01/2023  1:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list
You mean the COA you posted is for something else?

FYI, It's wrong if it says that, unless it's plated. If it's plated, it's just a damaged coin now.
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 Posted 09/01/2023  2:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CitizenZero to your friends list
Please explain? DAMAGED? the picture I posted wasn't the COA just the letter stating it was a silver bicentennial. I bought it because it was silver bought from the mint in a silver set. If it's not silver Bradford has some explaining to do. I know all the tricks and this was not a replated coin or copy its from a set that was done as silver for collectors not the bag coins for the casinos....... but give me a few and we will know for sure. If your right Bobby then bradford is selling me nickle as silver and there are clad sets for sell but I bought silver...... hmmmm now you got me wanting to bust the slab open
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 Posted 09/01/2023  3:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list
Any coins plated after the mint are damaged. There were no silver plated Ikes at the mint.
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 Posted 09/01/2023  3:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list
There's a reason this doesn't say silver on it.....
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 Posted 09/01/2023  3:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cujohn to your friends list
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 Posted 09/01/2023  3:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list
@cit, here is a link to a previous thread talking about the speckled reputation of the Bradford Exchange:

http://goccf.com/t/338621

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 Posted 09/01/2023  8:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list
Your coin it is not a PROOF coin, the only who was Type 2. Read about you has a nice dream.


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The 1976 (Type 2) Proof Bicentennial Eisenhower dollar coin without an "S" mint mark is probably the rarest non-error modern coin in existence. Incomprehensively, all other known 1976 Bicentennial Proof Eisenhower dollars bear an "S" mint mark as they were all produced at the San Francisco Mint.

On October 18, 1973 the U.S. Mint held a design contest offering a $5,000 reward for each design chosen for the new 1976 Bicentennial quarter, half dollar and one dollar coins. On March 6, 1974 the winners were announced and Dennis R. Williams' Liberty Bell and moon Bicentennial design was chosen for the Eisenhower dollar reverse.

On August 12, 1974 the three winning designers of the Bicentennial coins were allowed to strike trial proof coins at the Philadelphia Mint, well before the Bicentennial coins went out to the public. Since these trial pieces were struck at the Philadelphia Mint, they did not contain the "S" mint mark! These trial strikes without "S" mint marks were then sent to Bal Harbour, Florida to be displayed at the ANA Convention. Mary Brooks, Mint Director at the time, indicated that the coins displayed without the "S" mint marks were destroyed and replaced with coins bearing the "S" mint mark once they arrived at the U.S. Mint.

Additionally, two separate early sets were presented to President Gerald Ford, but these sets each had an "S" mint mark. Another set was also struck as a "specimen set" and presented to the White House on November 13, 1974 by Mary Brooks. The three designers of the bicentennial coins were then presented with proof examples in special display holders, and these coins also bore the "S" mint mark.

This is only half of the story as the original reverse design was then changed sometime in the middle of 1975. Williams confirmed that he received a call from Philadelphia Mint Chief Engraver Frank Gasparro asking if it would be OK to change the reverse design lettering to improve the striking quality and to facilitate minting procedures at the Mint. Thereafter, the U.S. Mint began producing Type 2 Eisenhower dollars (Type 2 coins display thinner lettering on the reverse of the coin).

There is no mention as to whether Proof Bicentennial Dollars with a Type 2 reverse design were ever produced at the Philadelphia Mint. The only confirmations indicate Type 1 proofs were made without mint marks for presentation and promotional purposes, but there is no mention as to why the Type 2 No S Ike were produced. However, since Frank Gasparro was consulting Williams on the modifications for the new Bicentennial Type 2 Dollar redesign, it is very possible Gasparro struck a trial piece or trial pieces at Philadelphia to determine if the new Type 2 design would work.

Today, we do know there is only one 1976 Bicentennial Type 2 Proof Dollar known to exist. This colossal coin was found in 1977 in a Woodward and Lathrup Department store in the Washington District area. Incidentally, since Mary Brooks was involved in producing several promotional sets and presentation sets, she could have easily ordered a set of the Type 2 example and presented it to someone in Washington. Perhaps this coin was presented to a member of Congress or someone in Washington as a presentation piece and the recipient then spent it, having no idea that this coin was different from all others that were going to be produced.

The unique 1976 No "S" Proof Type 2 Eisenhower dollar now resides in a PCGS holder graded as PCGS PR66CAM. The coin is currently owned by Mitchell Spivack, Modern Coin Expert (wondercoins.com).

Mr. Spivack states "the unique 1976 No S Ike dollar is the most special coin in my coin collection and, I believe, the rarest and most special "modern" U.S. coin in existence. In fact, I believe it is one of only two or possibly three coins from all of the 20th century that are unique, non-error strikings of the U.S. Mint. The historical significance of this coin, honoring the 200th anniversary of the founding of our great country, is overwhelming. My son Justin (age 16) is a dedicated young coin collector who has collected coins since around the age of 5. He has asked that this coin be passed down to him as the single coin in my entire coin collection he can proudly own as an adult and I will certainly try to make that a reality."

It is evident that the Type 1 No S Ikes were produced for presentation pieces and according to Brooks, they were destroyed. For the Type 2 Bicentennial Proof Eisenhower dollar there is no mention of why it was produced, but what we do know is that this miraculous coin does exist. Today, we have the honor of having such an exceptional and unique example as a testament to represent the 200th Anniversary of this country and American numismatics.
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 Posted 09/01/2023  9:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dearborn to your friends list
I'm curious about the term on the letter above that states "Your Installment of $xx.xx is now due", that makes me think there was a payment plan for a common coin. how much was this coin?
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 Posted 09/02/2023  12:27 am  Show Profile   Check Brandmeister's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Brandmeister to your friends list
That is one banged up "Brilliant Uncirculated" dollar.
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 Posted 09/02/2023  02:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pristine2 to your friends list
I hope you did not pay very much for this absurdly common copper-nickel-clad Eisenhower dollar, of which there were more than 113,000,000 minted in 1975. In fact it is the second-most-common dollar coin in American history (only the 1979 S.B. Anthony coin is more ubiquitous, with over 360,000,000 made).

These coins barely circulated, and a huge proportion of them exist in low-end mint state grades (although they do get to be marginally scarcer in MS-65 and above).

No, it isn't silver. If you have a "certificate" saying that it is, it is a lie. Its nominal melt value is about 22 cents. If it "passed the Ole tissue test", which you can't really do with a slabbed coin, then you don't understand how the test works.

The slab it is in tells you two things: 1) the coin hasn't been graded and certified by a reputable numismatist, 2) it has been marketed to uninformed impulse collectors by a commercial operation that specializes in using (lawful) deception to inflate perceived value. Put bluntly, Bradford Mint is an extremely sleazy company distrusted by anyone who understands the hobby.

Yours is a below average strike. I doubt it would achieve much more than MS-63, though it is impossible to tell from the pics if it is even mint state. The coin has virtually no numismatic value at all unless you send it in to a reputable TPG for grading, which will cost you far more than coin could possibly be worth.

You could list in on ebay. It might fetch $8 before your listing fees.

Hope this clears things up for you.
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 Posted 09/02/2023  04:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lcutler to your friends list
I'd like to see this certificate. I see nothing to indicate this coin is silver, if it was represented as such, get your money back.
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 Posted 09/02/2023  4:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cointree to your friends list
The good news is you have 365 days to return it!

Oh, wait.....
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