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Valued Member
 United States
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Thank you sir! It is quite a special coin Ive know since 2006 as I have over 200 1964 P cents.lol. I'm obsessed. It stood out because of the Mirrored Lincoln ,the heavy vertical grading on the obverse but yet so smooth its like butter.. pretty darn cool. Always has been. Kind of like a hybrid Philadelphia cross bred with a proof. Lol 
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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I'm going to go out on a limb and say your coin is uncirculated. Unfortunately, your images aren't clear enough to see what you are referring to as markers.
The stairs on your coin do not seem to be fully struck. The stairs on an SMS coin would be fully struck.
Words of encouragement are one of the major food groups. We need to consume them regularly to thrive and grow.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3207 Posts |
we're saving you a trip to the show, but going will be a good learning experience, just be prepared for the (possibility of) disappointment
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
25398 Posts |
2,451,945,000 Lincoln cents dated 1964 were minted in Philadelphia. Good luck at at the show.
Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
94367 Posts |
Your coin is simply not what you think it is, or even close. We've tried to help, but you seem intent on wasting more time telling us that you know more than we do collectively.
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Valued Member
 United States
116 Posts |
I'm not sure how it cannot be circulated, my husband brought it home from the west coast in his pockets from purchases in stores and restaraunts. CoinFrog, I am always praising everyone on here for there incredible skill. You understand,surely,this has been really positive fir me on learning ,there have been several members who have been kind and wish me the best. I would do the same if so.eone asked memore and having a gut feeling and wanting to follow through on it is not disappointing to me. I'm only 20 minutes from the Music city center,so saving a trip and just going because I like the shows and will bring my 64 to the booth for even more criticism, is not the same to me. I don't mine getting lectured or learning. Just need a grading, we do it all the time, right. ? Really, All is well. I have no reason to believe I know more than anyone ,but making points on what little I have read and researched, I'm merely wanting conversation on things about this coin before PCGS has a quick look in hand Your confident with your decision I assume fro. many, Many years of work. I appreciate you. It's just a coin show.#129761;
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Valued Member
 United States
116 Posts |
If anything, you can gloat over my Inability to type slower,spell check and abbreviate.Little lol. I am by no means up to the speed of this community. I simply love watching to process and view points. Really I just love this coin and wonder why if anything it does draw interest and intrigued.Honestly ,no, I can't let go of the grading and the obverse lapel specific markers . Why, why do they imulated the uncirculated SMS.this will be question one.regardless,just having intrigue and fun&
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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You are infatuated for sure, best to submit this to a TPG to put the matter to rest. You're wasting your money, but we all wish you luck.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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You seem to be trying to convince yourself that what you have is indeed something. Please do let us know what PCGS says about your Lincoln Cent.
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Valued Member
 United States
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Not Convince myself so much,but rather needing closure. I honestly for the life of me, after this intense exchange in the community ,cannot understand why anyone would even care to take the time, or want to know or try to convince me that I am waisting my time, Or want to know the outcome.its very confusing. If this coin truly has no chance of ever being located as a possible part of a set that was not documented,why would anyone care and just not let it go . A simple member sharing a simple answer. Instead of touching on apparently now I see, a really sensitive issue. If this coin simply does not exist, I really wish the forum would state as a whole to please not bother members with the topic and therefore not waist your time. It seems to draw much anger and attention which is not my intentions.I have followed the intrigue as to there being no documented evidence of volume produced. I WAS UNDER THE ASSUMTION, it remains a mystery. I Cleary see now that by enjoying this Hunt for how many truly exist, is just a complete and utter waist of time and you all are in agreement. I do apologize. I see now I just needed to approach PCGS which is one of the reason I just paid to join. I was gravely mistaken that on this forum,the topic is not debatable and the coin is an annoyance at best.I think I will take her in, and ask for counseling on the only explanation I could sum up for one of two coins ,but mostly this now I know from studying markings why I need placement on this coin for the mintage location verified. I appreciated each and everyone of you. I understand now this is a closed subject and notable finds on this hypothetical existence is not something you as a whole wish to be bothered with and that is not a part of your agenda.I would surely be annoyed myself if trying to help notify a newish member and many others that this,is simply a subject that has no impact, because it is simply just not true. Maybee I can convince PCGS to write a topic on this subject in order to counter the apparently untrue opinions of those whose who offer literature on the fascinating thought that there is a window that is open due to no documentation.And are therefore garnering false information that it is a viable possibility to find an orphaned coin due to no mint location records. Interesting thought,agree? It could alleviate future inundation of flooding this forum with 1964 Pennies! Lol. I'm sure you're just sick of it. Will let you know, maybee what theyrelay to me in Nashville,and I can pass it along to put this buzzing fly to rest for you all and get back to coins that truly exist. Hard to take the beatings, but absolutely love what I gain from submissions. Take care all& 
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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When PCGS confirms what we have all been trying to tell you, please be sure to come back with a major "mea culpa". Your coin is an ordinary business strike 1964 (P) Lincoln Cent, despite how hard you try to convince yourself otherwise.
Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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Valued Member
 United States
116 Posts |
No one accusing anyone, I was under the assumption this type of coin can actually still be found. You have assured me this coon is not possible to be found in circulation, so I am baffled as to why you would need confirmation of such. Why is everyone so hostile over this? Why not hostile over the fact there is still literature out there stating it is uncertain. Feel rest assured with your knowledge . I wish I had your experience but I dont,only information I'm given and my hunch and opinion. That is all I have relayed. Honestly I'm still not sure why this silly coin is garnering so much feedback. You are the one getting the last laugh because you already know. I don't mind being put on the chopping block when the show is over if that is what you need, now I'm just going to get counseling as to why the idea of a circulated 1964 SMS. Causes so ,so,so much anger. I don't think I'll do as the French and admit something I didn't do. The preposterous notion that I even dare have a dream. Or believe I'm myself ,Is not aloud here I see. Let's just Leave this to PCGS. It will be an interesting story to tell them none the less. Thought this was a real possibility ,now you all have confirmed it is a false variety that could exist. So rest easy guys, A win, win, for you, You know I am going to get my 1964 P rating . I'm ok with that. As I said ,I thought this to be a real possible find. Now you have let me know. I guess now I'm only going to tall to people about the intrigue and sensitivity it creates. Why cannot anyone only say, thanks for your submission,let us know how your coin grades? I feel this is a subject that creates much animosity. I'm so very disappointed in this sad turn of events. But I feel if I do t earn years of respect, I am a joke.I get .You come from a different world than the new social media flood of random people taking pics of tool box found coins to see if they can ask 3000.00 for it on ebay uncertified, and it's got to get at your very last nerve, but rest assured. I am almost 60 years old, I watched my grandmother write on an envelope with a pen her noted finds(the old way) explain the reasoning and give them to us. Now it seems the only way to compete in this new fast pace world is through,ebay,utube,social media,ect. It must be infuriating, and rightly so, I'm sure you prefer the old school way of dealing in coins . coin clubs you actually go out for the evening to join, books on top of book on top of books ,friendly debate at the next coin exhibition,relaying orders or questions through a land line .Therefore actual human voice interacting is just common place. We are losing that. I'm from that world ND I miss it more than you know. I think we are allowed to speak to each other in such tones is the same as road rage. We never meet or see our trigger. Maybee all of this influx of information and opportunity in our new world is coming before we learn what to do with it? I am guilty myself . My 83 yr old father in law will post on Facebook all the (do you remember these times) and say that's what's wrong with the new generation,always controlled by social media not living the life where values,respect were learned were learned, while he is on his Apple I phone&  I don't even think we are aware what we are doing to each other I enjoy forums though,that is a luxury, this Coin World thiugh is proving tuff skin is a must. Take care guys. It been an interesting unforgettable topic for me#129761;
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Valued Member
 United States
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It just a coin, a coin I have a passion for, don't we all? I'm sorry to the member I didn't address before,but yes she has full steps#128076;  
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1657 Posts |
I've seen the die markers for the half dollar, but not any of the other denominations. Is there a listing somewhere I've been missing? I have no claim to expertise on this subject whatsoever, but aren't the 1964 sms coins supposed to have been struck from new dies? This coin looks like a late die state, with Die Deterioration Doubling on the 4 in the date, and the L of LIBERTY right against the rim like a late die state. Well, good luck and let us know how it goes.
Edited by lcutler 10/01/2023 11:55 am
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Forum Dad
 United States
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We're done here. 5MB of pictures (all terrible) later it's still just as silly. This is NOT an SMS coin and all the images in the world will not change that. 
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