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I would not have bought a coin based on those images, at any price.
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Not only was their no trimes in 1953, this is an 1856.
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-Neil deGrasse Tyson
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Not only was their no trimes in 1953, this is an 1856. I'm sure there was trimes in 1953. In fact, I'm pretty sure this one was around somewhere in 1953.  AU53 is my grade for this one based on visible wear and uneven strike. No opinion on the surfaces nor originality as the seller's pics are overexposed. IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.comEdited by numismatic student
10/09/2023 02:55 am
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we need better photos to narrow down a grade and originality. the diamond and spheres are a key in determining grade but I need to see them in more focus and less glare. there appears to be possible grafitti on the right side of the shield "A" and the surfaces are suspect as well as being tampered with. without better photos i'll call it AU details
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The seller cranked up he brightness for a reason. You can assume this one was cleaned.
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I would not have bought a coin based on those images, at any price. I hear you <b>kbbpll.</b> But I pulled the trigger anyways.I am willing to throw the dice now and again. Here are some in hand images. I tried the best I could to replicate what I see. Any suggestions for improvement are welcome. My untrained eye sees no evidence of abrasive cleani thruoghout the fields. Dipped perhaps. There are some distracting obverse scratches east of the shield not noticed before. Concerning the reverse. The horizontal clash of the obverse shield looks obvious to me here but the vertical anomalies are perplexing as they cross the horizontal. Also some distracting scratches at about 3k eminating from the last I up and turning down towards the star near the rim. Based on coin in hand evaluation, I will venture AU50 Details.Close, or no cigar? .   |
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Not only was their no trimes in 1953, this is an 1856. I believe you are mistaken. According to myresearch, Three Cent Silver Trimes were first struck in 1851. Variety I. Variety II was struck 1854-1858. Variety III was struck 1859-1873. Most of which were recalled and melted. A very misunderstood tiny coin. Minted for postage stamps primarily. US Mints smallest coin to date. |
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Not only was their no trimes in 1953, this is an 1856. Numis.. FTW,there certainly were Trimes in 1853. The first year they were struck was 1851. The moderators kindly corrected my title,so hopefully this won't be an issue any longer Type 1 Trimes were struck from 1851-1853. Type 2 was struck 1854-1858. Type 3 was struck 1859-1873. 1873 was the lowest mintage of only 1,000, proof only. Mintage numbers dropped considerably beginning in 1863,at the peak of The War Between the States. To finance the conflict, the U.S. Mint began melting the silver Trimes from 1863 onward. As a result of the low mintage for these years, and the fact that MANY were melted, the value increases significantly. Additionally, Type 1 years were 75% silver, 25% copper. 14mm dia. Type 2 & 3 were 90% silver, 10% copper, 14mm. Also,all were struck in Philly. Except on the first year of issue. 5,447,400 were struck in Philly. 720,000 were struck in New Orleans. I will take any of them under $50 if I can see the date. Did you also know that this is the smallest silver coin ever produced by the US Mint? |
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What does any of this have to to with the original question?
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Pillar of the Community
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You originally said 1953 instead of 1853, which is wrong also considering this is an 1856. Obviously I was joking about your typo, no need for anyone to get so serious.  You realize when you know how to think, it empowers you far beyond those who know only what to think.
-Neil deGrasse Tyson
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11/11/2023 6:55 pm
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obverse is in pretty bad shape. I'm still at AU details. value wise I'm hoping you didn't shell out a whole lot for it. what was your purpose in getting this? fill a hole? resell it? or just have one?
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I will take any of them under $50 if I can see the date. I'd like to hear that point elaborated. What is "see the date"? Like if the top edge of the date is visible, and you can determine the numbers, is that seeing the date? Is a silver trime in very low grades still worth $50? |
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I'd like to hear that point elaborated. What is "see the date"? Like if the top edge of the date is visible, and you can determine the numbers, is that seeing the date? Is a silver trime in very low grades still worth $50? .   |
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Dowhat, I understand the low grade prices on PCGS to be a linear extrapolation down to 0. The list prices rarely match the auction results below a certain grade. I have checked Great Collections auction results, too, and they will show far below the PCGS prices for low grade coins.
If you personally buy low grade examples of trimes below $50, then I guess there is indeed a price floor. =)
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