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Bedrock of the Community
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Yes, much larger pics, pease!
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 Quite a few scuffs and abrasions, particularly on the obverse. The obverse also shows lots of friction and luster loss in the fields. Original luster is only visible around a couple of the stars. I'd grade it AU-53. This 1880-S half eagle is a common coin and the value in this condition is based on the gold content. Edited by Jaobler
10/30/2023 5:11 pm
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Looks like a bad cut across the cheek as well. Guessing this is just a bullion coin.
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My initial gut reaction was between an AU58 and MS62 so I'll give myself a pat on the back for first attempt. Did something on a Peace dollar someone posted and asked for people to guess its grade - I guess one grade higher than actual. I may actually have a future at this!  |
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Slow down turbo.
This isn't something you can just accrue over night.
Most likely you compared photos to your Coin and it took you awhile.
A professional grader will know the grade within seconds without the help of photos or anything else but a loupe.
It can take a long time to develop your eye, stick with it and don't get discouraged.
You realize when you know how to think, it empowers you far beyond those who know only what to think.
-Neil deGrasse Tyson
Edited by NumismaticsFTW
10/30/2023 10:52 pm
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I am thinking AU to low MS.
Errers and Varietys.
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Pillar of the Community
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I believe the old saying goes like this...
Grading is easy..just look at 10,000 coins and it becomes apparent.
I'm probably at 50,000 and am still learning.
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NumismaticFTW - your right that this is a skill which is definately not obtained in any short period of time. I didn't spend awhile, I spent hours on this. I referred to the notes I wrote from the ANA online grading 101 class, researched what focal points to look at on this particular coin, look and compared numerous PGLS example to the coin itself before I put together my thoughts and final grade on the coin. I am just happy and encouraged that it appears I applied what I read and saw correctly this one time. Thanks everyone for the feedback on stuff I missed and additional thoughts/feedback on some of my observations. Much appreciated! Its only through practice and being receptive to honest constructive feedback or suggestions can we improve.  Edited by dldmetz
10/31/2023 02:52 am
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to the CCF Nice job on your initial attempt. |
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here's something you can do regarding grading. assess you coin and assign a grade based on that. go to ebay and search for same coin slabbed by PCGS/NGC in the grade you assigned. look at several of the slabbed coins side by side with yours and see how they compare. Always keep in mind that even the big houses get the grade wrong since its subjective. we see them here all the time. sometimes you just scratch you head and try to figure out how they got there. |
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Panzaldi - know exactly what you mean. When I was analyzing and comparing the various grading pictures on the PCGS, I saw coins graded as AUs that appeared, at least in my eyes, to be in better condition than ones graded as MS. Then I saw coins graded as MS which looked worse, in my eyes, than ones graded as AU. Guess the old saying is true - beauty is in the eye of the beholder.  |
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If its a bullion coin than I earned a F on my first grading attempt. I do understand why a bullion designation is being considered (scratch on the cheek). Is there a grade point, at which a is coin considered to be a bullion coin or does it depend upon the market value of the grade for the coin itself?
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I saw coins graded as AUs that appeared, at least in my eyes, to be in better condition than ones graded as MS. Then I saw coins graded as MS which looked worse, in my eyes, than ones graded as AU. very possible. a high grade AU coin almost always looks better than a low end MS coin. low MS coins typically exhibit a lot of marks, scratches, scuffs and discoloration. i'd almost always take an AU58 over an MS60,61 or 62 coin Quote:
Is there a grade point, at which a is coin considered to be a bullion coin or does it depend upon the market value of the grade for the coin itself? the answer is yes in most cases. however there are a lot of variables. if the coin is common and has a low enough grade that does not exceed its market value then obviously its just worth the metal content. same goes for damaged coins but again it comes down to rarity. BTW your coin is worth more than melt Edited by panzaldi
11/03/2023 11:08 am
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