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Pillar of the Community
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Lots of large marks but nice frosty luster. MS-63.
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MS63. borderline 64. maybe with sharper photos to show the marks
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IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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Looks 63
I don't really know how to grade these, I can only sit and drool at them.
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obv will hold this one to MS63
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NGC's opinion. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.  IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.comEdited by numismatic student
11/08/2023 08:24 am
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Pillar of the Community
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That's not a 65 to me. Still think you'll be fine at that price.
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Bedrock of the Community
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good job NGC  another miss but good for you. nice job on the photos i think it a tad better than 63 but imo its a tweener MS63+ not a 65. way too many marks and scuffs for that grade. |
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When I was looking at examples to compare to mine I have noticed they are more forgiving of bumps than of wear. Nor surprised with the 65. It is fair, with others I saw.
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Beautiful coin, but I don't see an MS65.
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Nice example of one of the most beautiful US coins. I've wanted one of these for years, but have been unsuccessful talking myself into laying out that much moolah! I'll just have to keep living vicariously through you and seeing your excellent acquisitions here.  "Nummi rari mira sunt, si sumptus ferre potes." - Christophorus filius Scotiae
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Thank you for all of your kind comments. IMHO this coin is very pleasing with great luster. I only see one significant contact mark on Liberty's thigh. There are a few others but they are light and I really have to enlarge the already large photo to see them clearly. It sports a gem grade, but a 65 is not perfect coin the way a 70 should be. The SGDE is the same thickness as a Morgan dollar at 2.4mm, 13% smaller in diameter (34.1mm vs 38.1mm) and 25% heavier, weighing over a troy oz (33.436g (1.075 troy ounces) vs 26.73g). Gold is softer than silver and more prone to acquiring marks through contact with other heavy, compact double eagles. There is a seller that offers random year MS65 graded SGDEs sight unseen with a credit card for about $2,459 which is close to $2,400 if you can get 2% cash back on a cc purchase. The catch is that you don't get see the coin you are going to get beforehand. This one offered bad photos. I think the subject coin of this thread was priced at what it was supposed to sell for. NGC has graded 22,221 1927 $20 in MS65. PCGS has graded 32,233 1927 $20 in MS65. This is not a rare coin as is plain from the smallish 20% premium over spot gold. It is interesting that because the PCGS MS65s are more available (by about 50%), I can probably buy the PCGS graded coin for about $5-10 less per coin, so no PCGS holder premium which is a little unusual. IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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