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Sure looks like environmental damage to me. This is exactly what nickels look like that I find metal detecting.
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Evil Texan,  I agree with environmental damage. John1  |
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 environmental toning - the arcs you see on this coin are most likely from other coins resting on top (and under) on it and protecting it from the elements. |
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I agree with everyone here, especially ijn1944, HondoBogus, and ICutler.
I find similar looking coins metal detecting on a regular basis but because of the shape of the stain behind his head I'm thinking this one is from a cup holder where a cent or dime had been touching it. Moisture causes this lighter colored staining.
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11/29/2023 08:14 am
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Hondo calls it. to the CCF! |
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The lighter areas in person appear to be regular shiny nickel. The entire outside edge of the coin is shiny copper with no nickel. When I get the scale in a few days I will update. The appearance when I first held it looked like staining, but is not the case. Could natural electrolysis have occurred? Maybe, but it is not just a stained surface. I even considered that the coin had been plated with copper. All of the high areas show fresh red copper with no sign of the nickel. Toning would be surface only and raised areas that show wear would be more likely to show nickel. I do not want to damage the coin to find out.
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I appreciate that I am new here, but statements such as " wild imagining" are not warranted and a bit insulting. Especially when you do not know a person's background. The coin is more worn than weathered.
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@Evil Texan.... I'm not an expert but I do agree w/ the other regarding the stained/environmental damage being the most logical explanation, as we've seen similar posts in the past. While you're awaiting the arrival of your scale.... if you have any coin dealers/shops in your area, you could always bring it in & get an opinion or two. If it were my coin, that's what I'd do.
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@ Evil Texan This appears to be PMD, staining due to chemicals of some environmental nature. As mentioned above, may be a found coin from metal detecting. Edited by Sharks
11/29/2023 12:50 pm
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to the CCF and staining. |
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Scale arrived today. Weight is 5.1g /177oz. There are 2 other similar nickels posted separately on this website. They are all 1969 D. Does this not raise any eyebrows? Why are the only examples from the same year and mint? I saw a couple elsewhere too, but still 1969 D. It seems nobody wants to believe they are naturally this way. Mine is the only one showing some of the nickel.
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If your scale has a precision of 0.1 g, then your nickel could weigh between 5.051 - 5.149 g. As Weight Tolerance for US nickels is 5 g +/- 0.2 g (4.80 - 5.20 g), you have not really demonstrated anything about this coin. Go to the nearest local coin shop, pawn shop or jeweler. They will all have a handheld XRF and test your coin, and it won't cost $75 as you said elsewhere. Test it in several spots on both sides. This is the only data that will allow you to demonstrate that the coloration is due to improper alloy mixing. P.S. If your scale truly has a precision of only 0.1 g, you need to get a better one for measuring coins. Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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Well let us know what you find out, but I have to stick with a dug coin. I've found buckets of them that look like this. I don't really know what causes it, whether the copper in the alloy somehow leaches to the surface or what. Copper nickel clad coins come out of the ground the same way. Do an image search for metal detected coins and check them out.
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you need to get a better one for measuring coins. I have been talking till I am blue in the face about if you need to buy a scale get one that measures 0.001 and not 0.1 grams but I always get shot down that 0.1 is good enough   John1 |
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@Evil Texan.... Its not that we don't believe you or are not rooting for you, but.... anecdotal evidence is insufficient, as it is not scientific evidence. Skeptics (like myself) rely on the facts, which is absolutely necessary here. So, you've started w/ the weight, which is within tolerance. Now, move onto the next step of composition testing XRF testing & find one in your area that will do it for free.
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