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Did I Score Big? 1880 S Morgan Dollar

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 Posted 12/19/2023  3:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DOCC to your friends list
Monkey around with contract and exposure and it starts looking like a cast.


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 Posted 12/19/2023  4:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumisEd to your friends list

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Monkey around with contract and exposure and it starts looking like a cast.

That is my impression as well, based on just the chin alone (for starters).
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 Posted 12/19/2023  4:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cujohn to your friends list
That was my thought also because of the stars on the right side. Whizzed?
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 Posted 12/19/2023  4:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shayez to your friends list
Can anyone share a picture of a cast coin so I can compare and make another photo
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 Posted 12/19/2023  5:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list
You can google cast Morgan dollar and see many examples. Yours seems to have too much detail for a cast copy.
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 Posted 12/19/2023  6:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shayez to your friends list
Love to hear that someone thinks it's not a cast
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 Posted 12/19/2023  8:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list

Weight?
80-S is known for higher grades. Here is a link on grading:https://www.pcgs.com/photograde/
Here is a link for VAMS: http://www.vamworld.com/wiki/Home
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 Posted 12/19/2023  9:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list
Whatever you paid for it, it was too much.

Poor thing's been badly abused by someone.

That orange peel on the cheek is hugely unnatural as well.
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 Posted 12/19/2023  11:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list
It looks whizzed to me.
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 Posted 12/20/2023  09:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list
sadly I have to burst your bubble and agree with the above comments. because its such a common coin at higher grades I don't think there is any collector premium above its silver value. hopefully you didnt overpay for it and if you did maybe they have a return policy.

until you're able to discern a cleaned coin (which can take years) I suggest posting here prior to pulling triggers, get the feedback, and add that to your knowledge base going forward

if the coin was assigned a grade it would be UNC (details) cleaned
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Is whizzed lumped in with cleaned?
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Is whizzed lumped in with cleaned?


Yes but typically on the worse side of cleaned. it is possible to have a lightly cleaned coin depending on how it was done and how much (such as dipping) that could grade straight. no whizzed coin would pass with a straight grade
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Whizzing is done with a high speed wire brush to remove part of the surface and imitate chartwheel luster. It was a real big issue in the 70's to take EF or AU coins and sell them as CH BU. I would prefer having a cleaned coin over a whizzed one any day.
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 Posted 12/21/2023  10:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumismaticsFTW to your friends list
This is a $18 coin, and would he a hard pass from me.

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PCGS lumps it in with code 98 Damage under #10 "Smoothed" https://www.pcgs.com/grades#grade98 whereas cleaning is under code 92. NGC lumps it under Cleaning https://www.ngccoin.com/coin-gradin...ils-grading/ (click Read More). ANACS website doesn't say either way.
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