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Got My Truview 1934 1c RD Back From PCGS And I Somehow Missed It Being What I Think Is FS-101 DDO

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 Posted 12/22/2023  12:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list
Not seeing 101 http://varietyvista.com/01a%20LC%20...4PDDO004.htm
MS66RD value is about $55,what did it cost you all in? Coin-grading-shipping there and back-insurance.
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 Posted 12/22/2023  12:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tacc to your friends list
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 Posted 12/22/2023  1:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list
I'm not seeing it.
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 Posted 12/22/2023  1:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list
I see a lot of reflection doubling in their picture, but not the DDO.

If this was a DDO, and you just like the idea of a designation being on the label, then I would go for it. Have you checked to try to find a sold one of this same type/grade? Always check ahead of time if money is important to you b/c you likely already have the value of what you *might* get out of the coin into slabbing it (aka. the company already got all the profit and you get a net of nothing if you sell). If this was a DDO and you sent it back in, then you would more than likely be pouring double value of the coin into it and maybe regain half of your money. Though PCGS sure wouldn't mind...they love this as it gives them a better Christmas

And I am not sure you know, but this penny also is neverguarateed the same MS 66 again either. They use absolutely nothing verifiable, or any scientific method to grade coins. As their website says, it is subjective. So the grade is not about the coin itself, it is only an opinion, from that day, of the two graders who saw the coin. That is why the very profitable re-slabbing game exists. If the companies chose to use something verifiable (they used to in the 90s and abandoned it), then their profits drop way off.

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 Posted 12/22/2023  2:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list
Looks like doubling on the reverse as well. My guess is Machine Doubling and not DDO.
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 Posted 12/22/2023  3:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list
There is something on the 3?
Look at the 3: http://varietyvista.com/09d%20WQ%20...3PDDO007.htm
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 Posted 12/22/2023  4:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cujohn to your friends list
I'm not seeing it with these pictures. 101 is with the 93 located way south of the date. It was just discovered a couple of years ago. Not many examples of it. If this is 101 it would be the top population. Worth thousands. And I would think PCGS would identify it.
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 Posted 12/22/2023  5:50 pm  Show Profile   Check Brandmeister's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Brandmeister to your friends list
http://www.doubleddie.com/532534.html WDDO-006

http://www.varietyvista.com/01a%20L...4PDDO004.htm

https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin...-79-rd/37732

I do see a faint lumpiness far under the 3 and 4. Those faint features are smeared by Die Deterioration and very hard to see properly. But honestly, the PCGS certified versions are not all incredibly well defined either. You would probably need to take images of your own and then do an overlay to see if the feature positions matched.

Nice coin, btw. =)
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 Posted 12/22/2023  6:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add HolyHackJack to your friends list
I was somewhat going off of the current thumbnail cent for that listing and how they were (to me at least) nearly identical. Here's his:


Got-My-Truview-1934-1c-RD-Back-From-PCGS-And-I-Somehow-Missed-It-Being-What-I-Think-Is-FS-101-DDO


Here's a comparison

Got-My-Truview-1934-1c-RD-Back-From-PCGS-And-I-Somehow-Missed-It-Being-What-I-Think-Is-FS-101-DDO


Here's a link to the full size images - can zoom in and see quite a bit more than the compressed one above

https://d1htnxwo4o0jhw.cloudfront.n...75441511.png
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 Posted 12/22/2023  7:12 pm  Show Profile   Check Brandmeister's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Brandmeister to your friends list
You realize that's not the doubling on FS-101, right? Look on the Wexler and VV links I posted. There is like a half numeral separation below the 34, and then two obvious curved marks where a massively off center hub touched the die.
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Is that the 3 die cracks on vv, that u see on his?
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 Posted 12/23/2023  04:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list
You need to match the variety first than match die markers.
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Definitely not 101.
101 begins to have a die crack coming off the tail of the 9 in this die state. You can see it here on the example that I found.
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