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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
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Quote: Pretty sure this was struck from false dies. Not a mint error. Enlighten me...
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
9163 Posts |
Now that's a new one for me.
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
5589 Posts |
I don't understand why the rim has no impressions
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
2301 Posts |
The rim should show damage from underlying off center strike. Red flags. Would need to see it in hand. I count 4 strikes on rev
Edited by nickelsguy 04/20/2024 9:05 pm
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
4618 Posts |
I don't know on this one.
I'm not sure due to the fact that the additional strikes left too much of the underlying details with no flattening. The details are usually obliterated by the 2nd, 3rd, etc. where they can almost disappear. Also, with the additional strikes being off center, I don't see any indications of being broad struck.
When I look at the letters in CANADA, the letters don't look like they were struck from the same die. The cut of the letters doesn't look to be of the same design and shape.
ANA ID: 3203813 - CONECA ID: N-5637 Clean a coin that may be worth collecting? Please DON'T! When in doubt, leave it dirty!! 
Edited by Yokozuna 04/20/2024 9:30 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
94367 Posts |
What happened to the last A in Canada on the second strike? Why is "5 Cents" not doubled?
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
4911 Posts |
Most definitely struck with fake dies... No real coin die would produce the outer edge of a coin, that is only produced by the collar die meeting with the edge of the other two dies.
Feel free to call me Will.
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Moderator
 United States
56855 Posts |
Mike might want to see this one. John1 
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
6590 Posts |
Quote: Most definitely struck with fake dies... No real coin die would produce the outer edge of a coin, that is only produced by the collar die meeting with the edge of the other two dies. I tend to agree. I don't think a second rim should be there
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
74542 Posts |
I'm in the struck with fake dies camp.
Errers and Varietys.
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Moderator
 United States
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Very interesting. 
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
2426 Posts |
Edited by darryldarryl 04/23/2024 06:24 am
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2955 Posts |
After looking at this coin, put me "tentatively" on team genuine double struck, albeit a rotated and tilted secondary strike. The devices are correctly oriented and not inversed as a post mint double strike vise job would be. Quote: Why is "5 cents" not doubled? It is doubled, look to the upper left towards the rim as I see the secondary 5 CE then fades from there... We may have to look at what the dies looked like back in 1963 when this nickel was struck to garner better ideas...  It almost looks like somebody in 1963 was playing with the dies at Ottawa so it could be a mint employee assisted error... 
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I agree with PMD. "Struck" with counterfeit soft dies afterwards. A true double strike will result in a sharper second strike while flattening details of the first strike.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
870 Posts |
I handled that coin at the show and I told the vendor that I thought it was fake because the under strike was not obliterated by the later strike. PMD
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