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New Member
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Thanks all. I read about the roller lines on the subject with woodys. I suspected plating issues and tried to push down the area with a tooth pick no movement. But makes sense if it was there before being struck! I appreciate all the feed back.
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Pillar of the Community
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Quote: -makecents-, Would you please post a link that explains this issue so I can read up on it? Thanks. John1 It's odd that it is not shown or spelled out well but this is the best link for it and does not show a pic on a plated coin but does mention on plated coins. Here is the part mentioned and then a link to the full explanation. The roller lines were just explained to me by one of my "overlords", Will Brooks, which makes complete sense, especially when you look at the directional consistancies. LINK https://www.error-ref.com/subsurface-corrosion/Subsurface Corrosion 
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Valued Member
United States
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You think these are also "rolling lines"? 
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Pillar of the Community
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Quote: You think these are also "rolling lines"? Cannot tell from the pic, too small and you need to have the reverse pic with it, to compare directional consistancies.
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Valued Member
United States
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There is nothing on reverse. And the first photo I posted - n9t all of the coins have those lines on the both sides, I definitely have seen (maybe even still have some around) pennies with those lines only on O or R.
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Valued Member
United States
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Is this pic better? 
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I agree with -makecents-.
Errers and Varietys.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
8815 Posts |
Svant, better but still cannot tell what you have there. If it's the snake like lines in front of the face of Abe, not roller lines. They will be straight and somewhat consistent and typically will be on the reverse too. Maybe still some sort of plating issues though. You should start a new thread and have larger, clear pics.
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Pillar of the Community
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Alright then, John1, I was kind of right.  I reached out to Will Brooks and he sent me some pics of his write up of this in CONECA's Errorscope (July/August of 2020). They are channels that are already in the stock and therefore on the planchets before ever plated and struck, sometimes exacerbated by grease. Here is the writeup on it, hope it can be read, kind of small. I remembered this but just slightly out of context. Nice pics from Ray Parkhust,(mpsrpms) on here. Pics from Vivien Bullard and much input on this study, (a super sharp friend from a different site). Much input towards the study from Cliff Reuter, also a very sharp individual, (Petespockets55) on here and even a pic from me, that I had forgotten about.  And of course, our very own Mike Diamond. Good artical, worth the read.   
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-makecents-, Wow, thank you for going the extra mile. Very helpful read. I wonder why the "lines" don't flatten out or disappear after the strike? John1 
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Pillar of the Community
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Quote: I wonder why the "lines" don't flatten out or disappear after the strike? John1 After Will sent me the article, I remembered the study but had to read it a couple of times to fully understand it. It is my understanding that the grease stands in these furrows, like water in a tilled field. This will give the strike enough resistance to not fully obliterate the striations, especially in the weaker struck areas of a coin. That's my take on it and the simplest way I know to explain it, as I am pretty simple. 
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Moderator
 United States
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That makes sense, thank you. John1 
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Pillar of the Community
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Quote: That makes sense, thank you. John1 It was good for me to brush up on it and make it right, as I was a little off. I appreciate you asking, good for us all or at least those who are interested. 
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Valued Member
United States
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Fascinating. I was very interested! After all, I did come here to learn. Thank you very much for the effort.
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Pillar of the Community
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Quote: Fascinating. I was very interested! After all, I did come here to learn. Thank you very much for the effort. Very cool! I'm glad you got something out of it. 
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