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Bedrock of the Community
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Very interesting, congrats.
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Pillar of the Community
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I don't think we would be seeing radial flow lines from the die if it were covered by a planchet that was stuck to it. I think the radial flow lines are from the die cap and not the die itself. The same process of creating die flow lines are in effect here except now accelerated with the more malleable copper metal. EPU on the reverse does seem oddly more worn than the rest of that die but maybe this was a common look in 1982. "Pride is yoked with callous behavior, as humility is with compassion." St. Gregory Palamas Top Finds - 1969-S 1c FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/477681 1976 D WQ FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/382777 - 1968 D 1c FS-801 http://goccf.com/t/422254Cool clashed dies - 1972 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/429855&SearchTerms=CCLStruck-In Rim Burr - 1969 S 1c http://goccf.com/t/425587&SearchTerms=burrFloating (Type II) Counterclash - 1978 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/434991&SearchTerms=1978 |
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Pillar of the Community
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Bedrock of the Community
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Well whatever it is - it is very cool looking.
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Pillar of the Community
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Very nice! That one does have a bit of a different look than a lot of these do, and that adds to its fun factor.
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Pillar of the Community
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Congrats on a nice pick up.
(Too bad that one wasn't minted in Denver.)
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Pillar of the Community
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Very interesting coin! I'm not sure how a die cap could have flow lines that would transfer with that much detail to the coin, no matter how thinned out the die cap was. Seems like you would see less detail on the struck coin, not these fine, thin radial metal flow lines. It's a cool looking coin regardless.
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Pillar of the Community
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Thanks for the comments on this one! Quote:
(Too bad that one wasn't minted in Denver.) I keep looking in hopes a D will appear. If you notice, those flow lines are in places I have never seen on a VLDS coin. Specifically above the chin and on the jacket. I believe this points to the die cap being the source and not the die itself. "Pride is yoked with callous behavior, as humility is with compassion." St. Gregory Palamas Top Finds - 1969-S 1c FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/477681 1976 D WQ FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/382777 - 1968 D 1c FS-801 http://goccf.com/t/422254Cool clashed dies - 1972 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/429855&SearchTerms=CCLStruck-In Rim Burr - 1969 S 1c http://goccf.com/t/425587&SearchTerms=burrFloating (Type II) Counterclash - 1978 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/434991&SearchTerms=1978 |
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Ok, let me see if I get this right.
In order to even have a die cap, you first need a raw planchet to be fed into the striking chamber then struck up (one would assume normally) but then gets stuck on the obverse die. Then the next planchet is fed into the chamber and down comes the die with the stuck coin, it smashes into a new, fresh planchet and is struck up BUT the reverse design elements are what is presented to the planchet.
So, what I think we should cee is the ghost outline of the obverse die AND the imprint of the reverse of the stuck coin.
Shouldn't we also be seeing a reverse design on the obverse side of this new planchet that was fed in? with the letters reversed (backwards) right?
Or, am I off base so far that I'm in a different ballpark?
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Pillar of the Community
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Shouldn't we also be seeing a reverse design on the obverse side of this new planchet that was fed in? That's what you would expect with an early stage struck through die cap. But after multiple strikes, the die cap thins out and the reverse image is obliterated, so only the obverse image on the die is transferred to the new planchet through the thin die cap. But I just can't see how any flow lines on the die cap could transfer to the new planchet with such great detail. |
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Nice example!  |
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Thanks for the info on the late die cap stuff. Quote:
But I just can't see how any flow lines on the die cap could transfer to the new planchet with such great detail. Same here - which is why I don't think it is one.. I wish Mike Diamond would pop in and have a gander and wow us with his expertise. |
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Pillar of the Community
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The cap was very thin to allow that much detail to be struck up. Nice pick.
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05/09/2024 6:30 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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Mike did take a look and had this to say - "The variety of textures and topographies associated with capped die strikes is endless. I don't think these radial lines are properties of the die. For some reason, the working face of the die cap developed this rather unusual pattern of metal flow." - Mike Diamond
"Pride is yoked with callous behavior, as humility is with compassion." St. Gregory Palamas Top Finds - 1969-S 1c FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/477681 1976 D WQ FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/382777 - 1968 D 1c FS-801 http://goccf.com/t/422254Cool clashed dies - 1972 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/429855&SearchTerms=CCLStruck-In Rim Burr - 1969 S 1c http://goccf.com/t/425587&SearchTerms=burrFloating (Type II) Counterclash - 1978 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/434991&SearchTerms=1978 |
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Pillar of the Community
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Great to know, and thanks for the follow up. Fascinating coin!
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