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LMC-No Date Strike Strikethrough Grease Or Done Intentionally?

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 Posted 05/31/2024  3:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AtlanticBo to your friends list
Can you tell me what it is you are looking for? So, I can learn please?
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 Posted 05/31/2024  6:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dearborn to your friends list
At the moment I'm not sure, just a theory about a polished die.
When the die of a coin gets imperfections (like a clash), the mint folks will polish off a bit of the surface to remove it, in the process some of the incuse design elements (on the Die) can get reduced or removed. Think of the so called 'floating roof' and the no FG on a cent of no initials on the Kennedy half. If enough material of the field is polished off, I think that it could rise up to the level on the top of the rim.
Remember all design elements on a die are reversed. If the date is raised on a coin, then it is incuse on a die. Remove enough of the flat field area around the date then the numbers will eventually get removed.

What I need to see is the edge on image to see ir the top of the rim is reduced or not. (it shouldn't be as that is incuse - the field is not. So if the field was to be removed into the die enough, it could get to the same level.

Sheesh, I usually don't type that much on a single post
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 Posted 05/31/2024  6:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cujohn to your friends list
They wouldn't polish the die enough to remove the date and still use it. Looks like it's been sanded off.
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 Posted 05/31/2024  7:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dearborn to your friends list

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They wouldn't polish the die enough to remove the date and still use it. Looks like it's been sanded off.

I thought of that too, but how do you explain the field rising up to the level of the rim? This ain't no Cud.
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 Posted 05/31/2024  7:45 pm  Show Profile   Check -makecents-'s eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add -makecents- to your friends list
John1, I think this would be a good one for Mike Diamond, if you could bring him into the mix. I liked your tapered planchet to begin with, but all the examples I have seen have the same thin rim on the opposing side and this one does not.
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 Posted 05/31/2024  11:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AtlanticBo to your friends list
If you look northwest above liberty, you can see an abstract distortion that is slightly smaller than the same distortion in the area where the date is supposed to be. If you look closely, the distortion in both areas look like a circle that exploded. Why would someone sand in the open space above liberty and do the same thing where the date is supposed to be?

I have no idea what is going on with the date. I just know this coin sat in a box for at least 31 years and am unsure how long before that. My Father in-law found this coin in pocket change, along with a box full of misc. coins and about 1000 wheat cents thru the years. He was not a collector. Both he and his wife would save any wheat pennies and odd coins they found. I received these coins yesterday. So, I do not know when this could have occurred, but it had to be before 1992. (reference for age without date?) I am certain they did not sand this coin.

Should I get it graded?

I have a bunch more coins from the box I will post. I am going thru 42-1955 Lincon's (9 D's, 2 S's, 31 NMM) that were in the box and will post anything interesting.

Thank you all for your expertise, time and patience.

Respectfully,
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Just PMed Mike
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The fine parallel striations and the reduced height of the design rim to the right of the missing date indicate that both the date and design rim were abraded away outside the Mint.
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 Posted 06/01/2024  7:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AtlanticBo to your friends list
Mike,

First, thank you and everyone for your input.

Would there be signs of the date under magnification, when a coin is abraded?

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Thank you, Mike, for your input. Just odd about the weight and the edge of the coin looks normal thickness from the pics given.
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 Posted 06/01/2024  9:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Pretty good job though!
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 Posted 06/01/2024  10:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jfeed to your friends list
I see some "tooling" marks in that entire area. Running basically from East to West. Just my opinion.
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 Posted 06/03/2024  6:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cujohn to your friends list

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the field rising up to the level of the rim?
The fields don't rise up to meet the rim. The rim is sanded down to the level of the fields.
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