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1926-S Nickel Altered Mint Mark Or Poor Die Preparation?

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 Posted 08/23/2024  9:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Marv65 to your friends list
Hard to say- either a tampered S or a damaged S.
EDIT: Forgot the pictures........duh!

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 Posted 08/23/2024  9:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsearcher to your friends list
Not an expert in the series - but does indeed appear to be very suspicious to me.

Also - what's up with the apparent lip ring just below the nose on the obverse photo?
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 Posted 08/23/2024  9:51 pm  Show Profile   Check Brandmeister's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Brandmeister to your friends list
To me, it looks less like tampering, and more like an actual S mint mark got crushed downwards. Hard to say, though. The proposed pictures would probably resolve that conclusively.
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 Posted 08/24/2024  12:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RockyRoad to your friends list
Sorry, but I do not have access to an imaging microscope. I will try to post some angle pix with different lighting. I would assume that anyone attempting to alter something as small as this mint mark would have access to high resolution imaging and tools to match. With my 40x loup some disturbances in the metal are visible but they do not suggest the remains of a D. The most obvious marks to me are the "scuffing" marks along the rim to the left and right of the mint mark. The only other area that appears unusual is the sunken area where the top of the S should be. In my collecting experience I have learned that a small amount of grease that might remain in difficult to clean areas can distort or prevent accurate striking of an otherwise well prepared die. The "nose ring" visible in the photo is anyone's guess. It has no depth and does not appear to be tooled. There are no abrasions or other scratches in that area. The dark ring around it is bluish in color. I will post some new images ASAP. Thanks for everyone's responses.
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 Posted 08/24/2024  12:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Marv65 to your friends list
I couldn't imagine anyone counterfeiting Jefferson nickels either but there he was - Francis LeRoy Henning
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 Posted 08/24/2024  1:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Looks okay to me based on the second closeup.
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 Posted 08/24/2024  1:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thq to your friends list
This is at least a $200 coin. A VF of a key date in the series. It's a coin worth altering, and it is counterfeited frequently.

The leg of the S should be a straight line between the top and bottom. This one is serpentine. The date does not sit up on the field the way you would expect. Both differences are easy to see in Marve65's photo comparison.

Send it in to ANACS.
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 Posted 08/24/2024  6:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RockyRoad to your friends list
Well here is the best I can do with the resources at hand. The more I look at these pix and the coin in hand with the 40x loup, the more convinced I am that its been altered.

thq: Do you think the coin itself is counterfeit?


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From this picture it looks like the surrounding metal was scraped to try to form that S.......

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 Posted 08/24/2024  7:55 pm  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list
Dodgy at best .altered around the MM .
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 Posted 08/24/2024  8:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coin_coin_guy to your friends list
Mint mark is not genuine, interesting. Very weak strike.
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 Posted 08/24/2024  11:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thq to your friends list
It looks counterfeit to me, but IMO it's worth sending to ANACS just to find out. I'm wondering whether the S could have been hammered in to a 1926-P, followed by some careful metal relief to make it stand out. I looked at a lot of counterfeits online and didn't see any that had an S as crude as this.
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 Posted 08/25/2024  10:33 am  Show Profile   Check Brandmeister's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Brandmeister to your friends list
I was a bit puzzled why anyone would fake a Buffalo nickel mint mark, until I looked up the value of a 1926-S on NumisMedia price guides. Amazing the difference that tiny bit of metal can make.
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 Posted 08/26/2024  1:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RockyRoad to your friends list
Thanks to everyone who posted a reply. I decided to return the coin to the seller for a refund. Depending on what the seller decides to do with it I suppose it may resurface in the market again. It could be used as an educational tool to help other collectors but that decision is in the seller's hands.
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 Posted 08/26/2024  1:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DOCC to your friends list
Upper grades command a significant premium. Value on this coin would not warrant MM alteration however, might be a practice coin before attempting on a MS-level specimen.
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