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Great read, thank you.
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Nice detective work on the origin of he counter stamp. Fun poem as well.  |
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Lovely story, poem. Thanks for sharing.
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Admirable perseverance & detective work, ExoGuy ... few bother with the "unknown", not realizing that the journey alone can be a great reward ... kudos on this one |
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Outstanding!  Love the poem.  |
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Love the background on that c/s, and I'm impressed by your poetry!
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THANKS, ALL!  Your encouraging replies charge my old battery. God willing, I'll keep 'em a'comin'. Quote:
the journey alone can be a great reward ... I thoroughly concur, Mr. Whiskers. With over 2,800 c/s's that I'm studying, these journies are constant. On the plus side, I save on gas and don't have to miss the wife's home cooking. Meanwhile, I'm keeping my eyes open for a pair of Joe's silver spectacles or another of his products. Edited by ExoGuy
09/18/2024 10:44 am
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Your encouraging replies charge my old battery. God willing, I'll keep 'em a'comin'. Looking forward to the next once.  |
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wow, great topic!
Love the coin and the history behind it.
Very nice tribute to the counterstamper!
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@ExoGuy, here's a little more about Mr. Joseph from his time in Toronto, as well as some hallmarked silver spoons in a font similar to your c/s. JOSEPH, JUDAH GEORGE (Gershom), businessman and craftsman; b. 1798 in Exeter, England; m. Rebecca -, and they had two daughters and two sons; d. 17 May 1857 in Toronto.
The late 1830s and the 1840s saw the small Jewish population of Toronto augmented by the arrival of Jews from England, Germany, Lower Canada, and the United States. Primarily shopkeepers and skilled artisans — grocers, clotheirs, jewellers, tobacconists — they sought to integrate themselves into the social and economic life of Toronto. Judah George Joseph, one of the most prominent members of this early community, was born of a family described as "highly respectably connected." Much of his early life had been spent in the Channel Islands of Guernsey and Jersey. He immigrated to the United States in 1829 and eventually established himself as a jeweller and optician in Cincinnati. He prospered but "his generous nature led him to become a victim of false friends" and he was swindled in business, losing most of his property. About 1840 Joseph reportedly moved with his family to Hamilton, Upper Canada. Possibly attracted by the mercantile prospects offered by Toronto, he settled there between 1842 and 1844 and opened a business on King Street near the St Lawrence Market, then the city's leading commercial district. In addition to his trade as a jeweller and optician, he produced silverware, timepieces, mathematical and drafting instruments, and scientific equipment. Joseph observed traditional Jewish practice and closed his shop on Saturday, the Jewish Sabbath. He built a successful business, acquired property, and enjoyed considerable popularity as a result of his "cheerful, open-hearted and familiar" manner.
The glowing obituaries occasioned by Joseph's death described him as "a good citizen and a sincere friend." His funeral, conducted at the Jewish cemetery in orthodox fashion, was attended by a large number of people and probably provided the first opportunity for local residents to observe a Jewish ritual. Following his death, Joseph's business was continued by his son-in-law Henry Joseph Altman of Birmingham, England, and Thomas Hawkins Lee of Toronto.
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@ Zurie .... Good detective work and a most welcomed addition to this thread!    The signature silverware stampings are hallmarks, whereas the counterstamp is commonly referred to as a retail mark. Many silversmiths utilized a variety of stamps. My guess is that the tiny stamp on the coin may best be found on on the arm of a pair of spectacles and/or inside a watch case that Joseph fashioned. As I've not spotted any of Joseph's products bearing a Toronto stamp, I'm inclined to suspect that, in his later years, he abandoned the tedious work of making products to make more money as a retailer. Such was the course taken by many silversmiths during the 1840-50's. Plated utensils and other products were then more affordable and consequently became more saleable. |
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Good detective work and a most welcomed addition to this thread!  Thank you! |
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ExoGuy - great research and another interesting story. You also have my vote as Poet Laureate of the Coin Community!
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ExoGuy - great research and another interesting story. You also have my vote as Poet Laureate of the Coin Community! @cipster ....Can I get an order of fries with that? |
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