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Pillar of the Community
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I agree with BadThad. The coin looks off and the mintmark is kinda funky.
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@just, first welcome to CCF. Second, can you please confirm that the weight of this piece is within mint specs? Thx.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Not genuine was my first thought. It looks like a Chinese copy.
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Pillar of the Community
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Not genuine was my first thought. It looks like a Chinese copy My first thought as well... |
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My apologies for not adding the weight as it can be a strong contributing factor of its authenticity. At home I do not have have the most accurate scale, I plan on taking it to work where I have access to 4 decimal scales.
But it weighed 3.01-3.02-3.00. So it averaged low I guess but also not out in left field. It is non ferrous.
Can someone add a link for these Chinese counter fits?
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Pillar of the Community
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Nope. Even if it was the full 180 it would only be worth a few cents.
The dies are held in place by a set screw. Set screws loosen.
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@just, best practice is to only start one thread per coin, so I've merged your two threads. I'm glad to see that you are getting robust feedback!
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Does not look genuine to me. Reverse rim, obverse lettering and date are a red flag.
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Thanks for the input all! I plan on taking to a local guy who has been doing this a long time and really knows his. Will update when I know more. Hoping this is not a dud.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Counterfeit, not necessary to take to local guy.
You realize when you know how to think, it empowers you far beyond those who know only what to think.
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Edited by NumismaticsFTW
01/27/2025 6:39 pm
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New Member
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Well guys- my local, reputable dealer was 80% convinced it is not authentic- but also stated if it is fake its a darn decent one. And considering the rotational die error could be justification for other errors (maybe) he was 50/50 in thinking I should take the loss and send it in as there is little to no info with the rotated die error on a 31s. (another indicator of a fake) if its to good to be true it... appreciate you guys.
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Pillar of the Community
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100 per cent fake .
Check out the Chinese no no sellers sights .
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Bedrock of the Community
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Is your guy younger or something? Any dealer worth their salt should be an expert on all key date coins or they will learn some hard lessons. He should be 100% sure it's fake after an in-hand inspection.
I tried searching the forum but I can't find the threads posted about these particular fakes. I know there's at least 2 threads with pictures that look dead-on like yours. One of them has some reverse die cracks I don't see on yours but they probably replaced that die.
The Chinese are getting more sophisticated and artificially aging their fakes. One of the give aways is the tops of all of the devices are still usually copper.
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