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1877 Indian Head Cent PCGS Old Green Holder MS65 RB, CAC / Gold

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 Posted 03/12/2025  01:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Winesteven to your friends list
In my mind this coin goes for no less than $35K+, valued at somewhat more than PCGS 66RB w/Green CAC. It could get to $50k with the bp - maybe yes, maybe no. I'd be surprised if it went any higher than that, but I'm rooting for the seller that it does exceed $50k with the bp. I'm now one of the 32 watching it. Just for fun, I just placed a bid, but it's WAY LESS than $35k. No more bidding by me on this coin.

By the way, the one in my collection is a "normal" PCGS MS65RB with a green CAC sticker and an Eagle Eye Photo Seal. Redundant? Not really. John Albanese and Rick Snow weigh the various grading factors differently from each other. As such, there are CAC stickered IHC's that Rick won't sticker, and there are PS stickered coins that JA won't sticker. In my mind, an IHC having both stickers is having the best of both worlds. They do have tremendous respect for each other. I do believe that the auction coin would indeed PS, since the first three feathertips look strongly struck, and everything else looks good. What I can't easily determine from photos is the die state and approximate percent red of the auction coin. Obviously, the more red the higher the value. Rick says mine is 90% red. But then again, mine is "only" a 65, not in the same league as the auction coin.

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I see my max bid was outbid just 7 minutes after I placed my bid. I'm now "safe"!

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I see my max bid was outbid just 7 minutes after I placed my bid. I'm now "safe"!
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On understanding Wealth and Numismatics. To an average income collector $100K is like $1 Million. To the wealthy $100K is like spending $100. To the very, very wealthy $100K is like spending,.... well nothing. They are simply coverting $100K of worthless fiat dollars that loses value each year into a numismatic coin which gains value. As for me I am all in on Gold, Silver, and Numismatics.
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That reminds me of a story. Sam wanted to talk to God, so he went up on the highest mountain in his area. He asked, "God, are you there?" God replied, "Yes, Sam, I'm here.". Sam then asked, "God, what is one hundred years like to you?". God replied, "Sam, 100 years to me is like a minute to you!". Sam then asked, "God, what is one million dollars like to you?". God replied, "Sam, one million dollars to me is like one dollar to you!". Sam then asked, "God, can I have a dollar?". God replied, "In a minute!".

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My collecting "Pride & Joy" is my PCGS Registry Dansco 7070 Set:
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 Posted 03/12/2025  2:16 pm  Show Profile   Check NumisRob's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add NumisRob to your friends list
I just hope one day I find one of these among a saucer of coins for 50 pence each in a junk shop in some little English town. There must have been a few people travelling between the UK and the USA who brought one back among their loose change, and their descendants might clear out the drawer one day. I've found several 19th-century foreign coins in lovely condition in junk bowls but never yet a key date!
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Are you ready for the upcoming next level of price increases for Numismatics!?
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 Posted 03/19/2025  2:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mycrob to your friends list
Remarkable coin. Already at 22K+ bid. I think it has a goodshot at 35K. Thanks for showing that coin.
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In my mind this coin goes for no less than $35K+, valued at somewhat more than PCGS 66RB w/Green CAC. It could get to $50k with the bp - maybe yes, maybe no. I'd be surprised if it went any higher than that, but I'm rooting for the seller that it does exceed $50k with the bp.


The coin went for $36,300 including the 10% buyers premium.

Steve
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My collecting "Pride & Joy" is my PCGS Registry Dansco 7070 Set:
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 Posted 04/13/2025  10:37 pm  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list

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The coin went for $36,300 including the 10% buyers premium.

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Thanks Steve. Greysheet in 66RB CAC Green is $26.4k for this one and it's guaranteed to hit 66RB CAC Green. The seller is likely a bit disappointed but it still did okay. I expected it to hit $50k though.

The result pales in comparison to the MS65+RD CAC Green piece that ended last Sunday realizing $49,496 w/Buyer's premium. Greysheet for it is $28.8k 65RD CAC Green (w/o the +) Here's that coin: https://www.greatcollections.com/Co...gle-Eye-Seal

Looking at the Great Photos side-by-side I prefer the RB piece. The uncertainty in the financial markets may have hurt but you never know. Here they are, RB top.
ANA #R3154474
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