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Buffalo Nickels: "Original Rolls May Still Exist." I Wonder.

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I was consulting David Lange's book (2nd edition, "The Complete Guide to Buffalo nickels") as I often do, and was suddenly struck by how many years (usually from the Philadelphia mint) where he comments that "Original rolls may still exist." He mentioned it for BOTH types in 1913. Can you imagine...?!?! I can't! At least not for dates in the teens - and he mentioned it for the two '13's, '16, '17 and '19.

Does anyone remember ever seeing such a thing at a show or at an auction...?
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Never ran across any myself. Would love to have a full, original roll of 1931 S wheat cents...
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"Original rolls may still exist."

Anything is possible in numismatics I guess. One thing for certain is David Lange is making money selling his books -
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You might find an uncirculated 1909-S VDB in circulation. It is theoretically possible.
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You might find an uncirculated 1909-S VDB in circulation. It is theoretically possible.
I wish!
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Original rolls of many dates certainly existed in the late 1960s through the early 1980s. I remember rolls of the more common dates. Original mint bags of 1937 P-D-S and 1938-D also existed back then. I remember both being readily available at multiple shows and even at coin club meetings. Bags of 1938-D were readily available at double face value. What made them disappear was discovery of key varieties in multiple dates, especially when the CherryPickers' Guide and Ron Pope's Buffalo nickels: the Abraded Die Varieties gained traction. It's still possible to buy BU rolls by date, but all have been searched (multiple times) and the grade range will be capped at MS-61 to MS-64. I haven't seen an original Buffalo roll since the mid 1980s. The last ones I remember were at the ANA show in Arkansas, whatever year that was (some time in the mid to late 1980s).
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I know an old-time dealer who still has many OBW rolls of a wide range of coins, including many dates of Buffalo nickels, Mercury dimes, and Walking Liberty halves. Some of the first OBW rolls I purchased when I started searching for varieties came from this dealer, and in the subsequent 30 years they have sold off most but not all of his "hoard". I've only ever purchased Lincoln Cents from him, but I can say they were almost always really nice full Red, so the storage conditions were good. That said, the last time I tried to buy from him he had a big lot of 55-S OBW Cents that had obvious condensation damage. All the rolls are/were stored in an old bank vault, and conditions within vaults are known to be non-uniform.
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Waaay back in the late '90s, we bought original 1/2 roll each 1912 Cents and 1913 T2 Nickels; walked right through the door of the shop. We sent them all out for grading. We received the results, and found that we had doubled the 65 Red pop of the pennies, and added 6 to the MS65 Nickel census, and one MS66. We were on CoinNet, and searched for the Bids of those. Since we knew that the Bids couldn't be filled, we offered $50/more for each. Those bids were topped, we received the coins and sold them to the Highest Bidder before the grading results were published.
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You might find an uncirculated 1909-S VDB in circulation. It is theoretically possible.


And statistically impossible.
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