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I agree but it would be something to raise the appraisal level as the difference between 5FS and 6FS is versus just FS is in the 2 big graders web site $ pricings
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Full steps is only a big deal on business strike nickels before to 90's. Proofs usually have the full steps because the dies are highly detailed. I find it too hard to grade proof coins from pictures but if all those marks are on your coin it may very well be an impaired proof.
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Sorry about those marks this is the same coin cleaned and handed wearing gloves    how does it grade? |
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sorry I'm getting too excited and I mixed photos up the d is an error but the '50 is the proof cleaned and handled with gloved hands if you want a picture of the reverse I'll get it posthaste
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Bedrock of the Community
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What do you mean "cleaned" ?
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I think it's an impaired proof. Even before you wiped it down with a glove, there were some wipe marks on Jefferson's coat that make the numerical grade moot. Don't wipe your coins with anything, especially a proof. A dip in acetone is safe and can remove fresh fingerprints.
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Thanx for all the help I'm grateful for all the knowledge I'm getting I looked up your impaired proof definition its A Proof coin that grades less than PR-60; a circulated Proof this is a mishandled proof not a circulated Proof I put gloves on and removed it from the book again and took a picture with my phone and I see the problems on his coat your talking about and your right again  so I put him in 100% acetone for 10 min. and this is the result look like I f***ed up again in my learning prosses  thanx for the help I need again  |
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At this point I'd leave it alone. Proofs are delicate items that are harmed more than helped by most conservation efforts. Yes, it's not technically impaired which does mean circulated in this application of the term impaired. It is a problem coin nonetheless. I own a 1994 gold proof from Great Britain that's been mishandled so badly it graded PR64DCAM at PCGS. It had smudge marks from fingers/hands mauling it down to 64. Since the value is almost entirely in its .776 troy ounces of pure gold the value has not been greatly affected. The lesson is do not mishandle proofs or try to "improve" them in any way. Here's mine that looks a little better in-hand but you can see what can happen.  Edited by BH1964
03/18/2025 1:55 pm
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BH1964 can I respectfully make a solution if its only smudge from fingerprints bringing the grade down #1 take it out of the slab (if you send it back to them they will make a big deal out of removing it but an easy way to remove it is to power saw the top portion where the data info is off and slip the coin in its holder out of the slab) #2 soak it in acetone as I was told on this post by ZURIC #3 send it back to the grader to grade anew fresh w/o telling them the previous grade
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I think you're misunderstanding me. Acetone can help remove invisible skin oil that will cause new fingerprints. But once you can see surface toning caused by a fingerprint, acetone won't help. And the smudging and wipe marks seen on a mishandled proof coin is usually from mechanical surface disruption. Again, acetone won't help.
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yes I was misunderstanding as I seem to be too much lately thanx for clarifying it and I might potentially know how I messed up these and a bunch of other Jeff. proofs |
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micoin-I am a big "Proof Coin" lover  . There Are many proof coins in my late grandfather's collection that I inherited about eight months ago, which is how & when I got into Numismatics (Coin Collecting), and I have since acquired quite a few more Proofs! I learned a tough lesson early on when handling a 1992-S Proof ASE out of the Case and noticed a "Smudge" on the Reverse Mirror Surface and decided to try and remove it with a soft cotton ball, little did I know that something is soft as cotton will Create very visible scratches On the "Mirror-like" surface of a Proof Coin, Especially one like a DCAM Proof ASE 
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03/23/2025 04:14 am
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Posted 03/17/2025 8:14 pm
sorry
