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Liberty Nickels. Was It A Good Buy?

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 Posted 06/17/2009  6:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wetglaswegian to your friends list
You guys are right , if there was any doubt about what was being auctioned the thing to do would be message the seller rather than post his trader name on a forum to trash him when things didnt go as hoped.
Nobody in their right mind would have ever thought they were getting 10 rolls of Liberty nickels for under 20 bucks.If that were the case where were all the other bidders ? Probably messaging the seller to get a clear understanding on what was on offer.
Its like buying a fake gold coin in the hope its real and screaming bloody murder cos it isn't, you get what you pay for in this life and nowhere more so on ebay.
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 Posted 06/17/2009  6:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ratman4762 to your friends list

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Both buyer and seller made mistakes on this transaction
I have to disagree with you on this one Mycrob. The auction was misleading. Paul was under the assumption that the auction was for 10 rolls. He placed a bid. If you are implying that his mistake was not contacting the seller before placing a bid...then you are wrong IMHO. The fact that he read that the auction was for 10 rolls, when in fact the seller stated he had 10 rolls, and never mentioned that the auction was only for one roll....Why would Paul contact the seller and ask questions? Could you imagine what it would be like for sellers if every potential bidder had to email the seller and ask questions to verify what the auction was for? Paul read the auction as 10 rolls of v-nickels. I don't see where he did anything wrong. Once again, I believe it was an honest mistake by the seller, but I don't see where Paul did anything wrong on the bidding end.
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 Posted 06/17/2009  6:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wetglaswegian to your friends list
You could be right Ratty that nothing was wrong in the bidding phase , what was wrong I think is to trash the guy on a forum when its clear there was a bit of "weaselness" on both sides if thats the choice of word.
Its over and done now , out of the two involved I know which one id trust.
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 Posted 06/17/2009  6:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sfwusc to your friends list
I have been known to search the ending auctions looking for deals. I bought this lincoln collection one time for way way under market. I have no idea where all the other bidders were at. The seller keep dragging his feet about shipping it bc the price was so low. The seller agrees to sell what is listed at the final bid price... this seller isn't doing that. I think that is stealing. The auction was up for days with most people reading thinking it was 10 rolls in low condition. He listed 10 rolls, has 10 rolls, but doesn't want to sell them now bc the price is so low. That is his fault for being lazy, not sitting a higher min bid, and whatever else.

If you are selling something on ebay, then don't set the min bid under the lowest price you will take.

I will ask again, if it had gone for $200 instead of $20.... would the seller have shipped one roll or ten rolls? How do we know the auction wasn't for 10 rolls and for some weird reason there were no other bidders (like the lincoln collection above). The seller could be trying to pull a fast one and the rest of you are just saying oh it was a mistake. The words are clearly for 10 rolls (the seller said that himself). Why do we think 1 roll is fair?

Based on current ebay prices. $19 for a roll of V nickels isn't some great buy. here is one with Buffalo nickels that sold for $6. That is 15 cents each. Bulk sales like this don't go for single coin prices. I mean you can buy a common wheat for like 10-25 cents each at the local shop. That doesn't mean a $50 bag is worth $500-1250.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Full-roll-of-Bu...ad_W0QQitemZ320378422579QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCoins_US_Individual?hash=item4a980ac533&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65:13|66:2|39:1|240:1318|301:0|293:1|294:50


I don't believe the seller, so that is why I am being unforgiving. I think he is ticked the price was so low so he only shipped one roll. Seller do that.. if the price is to low they back out.

This is the same crap if the auction goes to high and you just return it due to buyers remorse. Oh, I got carried away, so I will just send it back. That is unfair and wrong too.

I think the buyer agrees to pay the final price and the seller agrees to shipped what was listed. If one party can't do their part, then negative feedback is required. It is only one negative feedback on a long track record.

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 Posted 06/17/2009  6:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TNG to your friends list
In the past year, I sold through consignment on CCF.
( Thanks Bobby and Susan the seller )
I sold quite a few thousands of dollars worth of coins.
Every one of these auctions started out at .99 cents without a reserve.
The final bid is what they sold for.
Some went great, most were right on the money and a few I took a loss.
All in all I made money even after commissions on the whole bunch.
I didn't cry when they went cheap, I didn't feel bad when they went high.
The descriptions were always very clear about what was being sold and the images were fantastic.

I wish people would let this go, it is not going well as a family friendly topic.
I like people on both sides of opinion here that I have made friends with.
I would think further commenting will only have this topic being shut down and locked.

I can see both sides of the story, I learned a little about commenting on outside issues from other sites in here.
I think it might have been a mistake on somebody's end but the ends that need to argue this out are the seller and buyer.
I don't think it is any of my business.
I should have not commented at all on it, now that I look back. I apologize.
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 Posted 06/17/2009  7:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add manila galleon trade to your friends list

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Common Date Liberty nickel Rolls 19/20th Century Dates



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I will ask again, if it had gone for $200 instead of $20.... would the seller have shipped one roll or ten rolls?


this is obviously more than one roll, so as a buyer I will not ask a question that is obvious and could have placed a bigger bid. The seller said he made a mistake, I think he should offer a full or a partial refund or a free mailing as a good gesture that could make the buyer happy, but since the buyer is already happy with what he has then the seller is lucky, he gets away with his mistake.

The buyer has the right to demand the 10 rolls or a full refund including mailing both ways. And if he is mad he has the right to leave negative feedback, if seller does not refund.

As a buyer you have to communicate to the seller and give the seller a chance to correct a mistake.

As a seller you are responsible for your mistakes and a good gesture to make your customer happy is needed as one way of marketing your business. And making the customer happy could be one way of not getting the negative feeback.



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06/17/2009 7:51 pm
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 Posted 06/17/2009  7:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Napoleon31ft to your friends list
Thanks wheezydog.
I like this forum because everyone can get along and its a good place to go and learn.
At this point I think that everyone has learned as much as they are going to.
I dont really have an opinion to the story but It does not seem like that big of a deal. I'm not saying anyone is making it one. Lets just say that we have learned a thing or two and leave it at that. No need to point fingers because people will get upset. Which is not the point of this forum.
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 Posted 06/18/2009  08:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SPQR to your friends list
No matter how many rolls were actually supposed to be auctioned, the proper way to handle an issue like this is buyer contacts seller and the two work it out. Yes, the auction was worded pretty ambiguously, but if the buyer felt shorted, he should have let the seller know and they could have worked this out.
The proper time to bring this public is after a compromise can't be reached.
Stuff happens, and the less uptight we get about it the better we are going to sleep at night.
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06/18/2009 08:01 am
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 Posted 06/18/2009  7:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ratman4762 to your friends list

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The proper time to bring this public is after a compromise can't be reached.
This post was started before Paul even received coins in question. He was under the assumption that he was going to receive 10 rolls And wanted to know if he got a good deal. It was members that posted afterwards that let Paul know that he was probably only going to get one roll. Yes, the auction was definately misleading. I don't feel it was not a "proper time". The seller posted that he made a mistake. Some forum members believe him..some don't. But I don't think Paul was wrong starting this when he did...I just don't he figured this is how it was going to end!
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 Posted 06/20/2009  09:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add WheatBackBill to your friends list
I think the whole thing is a bit ridiculous. But that's me. The whole issue could have been avoided with a simple email.
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 Posted 06/20/2009  12:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bill069 to your friends list
I have $20.00 bills I want to sell for $19.00...Are you going to send the $19.00 without asking any questions? I don't think so!
There were mistakes on both sides, a good learning lesson for everyone!
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 Posted 06/20/2009  1:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ratman4762 to your friends list

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I think the whole thing is a bit ridiculous. But that's me. The whole issue could have been avoided with a simple email.




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I have $20.00 bills I want to sell for $19.00...Are you going to send the $19.00 without asking any questions? I don't think so!
There were mistakes on both sides, a good learning lesson for everyone!


OK, According to you guys, If somebody starts an auction of 10 rolls of nickels at 99 cents, We should first email the seller, place bids, then if the auction ends at less than than face value.....expect to receive 1 roll of nickels?

Have you read the first post? Have you ever used ebay? Have you seen the actual auction in question? The auction clearly stated that he had 10 rolls of nickels, but never stated that the auction was for only 1 roll. The auction started at 99 cents which is very normal for even higher ticket items because it invites people to bid and lowers ebay fees. Paul (the buyer) read into the auction that it was for 10 rolls, bid and won. There really was no reason for Paul to email the seller before he bid. He did nothing wrong. He started this post after winning the auction, but before he received the coins. The seller posted that it was an error on his part in the way he worded the auction and how that error came to be! So, please don't insult Pauls intelligence by using that $20.00 for $19.00 analogy or blame him as the buyer by saying there were mistakes made on both sides!


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 Posted 06/20/2009  7:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sfwusc to your friends list
I agree. Paul got cheated, but he is ok with it.

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 Posted 06/20/2009  7:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list
I think this has run it's course and we can let it die now.
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