Coin Community Family of Web Sites Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors
Coin, Banknote and Medal Collectors's Online Mall 300,000 items to help build your collection! Vancouvers #1 Coin and Paper Money Dealer Royal Canadian Mint products, Canadian, Polish, American, and world coins and banknotes. Royal Estate Auctions - $1 Coin AuctionsSpecializing in Modern Numismatics Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors








Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?


This page may contain links that result in small commissions to keep this free site up and running.

Welcome Guest! Registering and/or logging in will remove the anchor (bottom) ads. It's Free!

How A Large Seller On E Bay Keeps A Good Feedback Score

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
First Page  Showing last 15 replies.
Author Previous TopicReplies: 19 / Views: 2,349Next Topic Page 2 of 2
Locked
822 Posts
 Posted 10/27/2009  7:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scubu to your friends list

Quote:
This company lets call it "heavenly mint" e mailed me that it does not intend to sell to persons who give negative feed back to other sellers.


Don't blame them one stinkin' bit. You could do a BIN from them, pay them with a stolen check, then thumb your nose at them and guess what? They can't leave you a negative. They're just protecting themselves from problem buyers. The fees they pay are based on feedback and DSRs. I would rather block 20 good buyers that left completely justified negative feedback than run the risk of one nutjob costing me 20% on my $4k/month ebay bill.

The feedback system is so absurd it makes me want to vomit.
Edited by scubu
10/27/2009 7:47 pm
Pillar of the Community
United States
5616 Posts
 Posted 10/27/2009  10:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Morgans Dad to your friends list
I totally disagree with the last post, I do not feel any one that has been treated poorly from a seller should be punished for leaving the "proper feedback", not everyone is out to screw up a seller, most people on that site, IMO, are good, honest, fair minded people.
I am a member of the watch dog group for the prevention of fraud and forgery in Numismatics for E-Bay, believe me some sellers just belong at the bottom of the pond, that said, I do not believe sellers should be able to "work" the system to their advantage by blocking a good, paying, honest bidder.Most would NOT believe the poor examples of people who do major business on this site, and the site should shut these people down for one reason or another, but because money has this strange power over people, things are allowed to go on. Not a level playing field by any stretch of the imagination....ps: Stephen, I would love to assist you in your situation, can you contact me? If not state so, I will some how contact you!Mike
Valued Member
United States
206 Posts
 Posted 10/27/2009  11:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stephen to your friends list
I believe you can dispute neg feedback and have it ex-sponged from you score if it is in fact from (a nut job) and is clearly difficult to deal with.

Learning a lot about online bidding and customer service. Thanks Scubu. that is an interesting side to selling.

If you don't receive your coins do not give negative feedback?

Valued Member
United States
436 Posts
 Posted 10/28/2009  09:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hippiebrian to your friends list
Another reason I avoid ebay...my local dealer hasn't put me on a banned list yet!
Pillar of the Community
United States
2335 Posts
 Posted 10/28/2009  12:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trdhrdr007 to your friends list
I've said it before & I'll say it again, I believe that the percentage of bad sellers is probably equal to the percentage of bad buyers. It's regrettable that some sellers resort to blocking buyers that post a negative, but I can see where they are coming from. IMO buyers shouldn't bid on any auctions that seem questionable, why shouldn't sellers try to avoid questionable buyers?
Edited by trdhrdr007
10/28/2009 12:01 pm
Moderator
Learn More...
United States
23522 Posts
 Posted 10/28/2009  12:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
As a seller, I'm running scared these days. ebay has turned the Feedback system totally over to the buyers; it's a drawn-out and shaky process to get feedback removed or modified and there's very little disincentive to be a jerk as a buyer. At least sellers potentially lose business; buyers just register another name and troll someone else.

I check the Feedback of everyone who bids on one of my auctions, and I'm not afraid to pull the trigger on a buyer I have the slightest reason to distrust.
Pillar of the Community
United States
2520 Posts
 Posted 10/28/2009  2:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ratman4762 to your friends list
Feedback is there for a reason! And I'm not afraid to use it! As a Seller I leave positive feedback As Soon as I receive payment (like it should be). The buyer has fullfilled his part of the agreement! I DO NOT hold his feedback hostage for positive feedback! This defeats the concept of feedback. As a Buyer I leave appropriate feedback as soon as I receive the item (unless I'm not fully satisfied) then I contemplate whether the item was not as described. I've never had to leave a negative and only left a neutral once (many years ago).
The feedback system is a good thing if it is used as intended. Leave feedback when you are paid and if the buyer is dissatisfied try to work it out with him. If he leaves you a negative, then you can reply. Blocking a potential buyer because he was unhappy with his dealings with another seller is just wrong. It is defeating the concept of leaving feeback (which is keeping the seller working hard to satisfy the buyer and keeping track of the buyers successful transactions)
Valued Member
United States
70 Posts
 Posted 10/28/2009  2:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add snick to your friends list
Interesting reading both side of the ebay feedback debate. I always learn at great deal from reading my fellow members opinions and thoughts.

Thanks!
Locked
822 Posts
 Posted 10/28/2009  2:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scubu to your friends list

Quote:
And I'm not afraid to use it! As a Seller I leave positive feedback As Soon as I receive payment (like it should be).


So you buy a coin from me. As soon as you get it you want to return it because it's cleaned. I stated clearly in the listing several times that the coin was cleaned. You deserve a neutral at best for wasting my time. Depending on how much you pester me because you were too lazy or ignorant to read the description, maybe a negative. You don't deserve a positive just because you paid, but ebay seems to think you do. Oh, and if you think this doesn't happen, think again. When you list a few hundred items a month you see this scenario several times a month. Lots of buyers don't read the description and I'll be damned if I'm going to let one of these knuckleheads cost me $800 if I can help it with a few preemptive clicks.

It's funny how anyone that has done the kind of volume as me, knows exactly what I'm talking about and the causal sellers think I'm an idiot.
Locked
822 Posts
 Posted 10/28/2009  3:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scubu to your friends list
Took me about 90 seconds to find an example.

Here's the listing....

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...120459756961

Feedback...

How-A-Large-Seller-On-E-Bay-Keeps-A-Good-Feedback-Score coin was cleaned ; seller should have been specific. "appeared cleaned".

This buyer is now on my BBL permanently. Unbelievable.
Pillar of the Community
United States
2520 Posts
 Posted 10/28/2009  4:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ratman4762 to your friends list
Scubu if you're going to quote me, then quote everything!
Quote:
As a Buyer I leave appropriate feedback as soon as I receive the item (unless I'm not fully satisfied) then I contemplate whether the item was not as described. I've never had to leave a negative and only left a neutral once (many years ago).
If I bought a coin from you and you received my payment, I WOULD expect prompt feedback when you received my payment! I've fulfilled my obligation. Just as you would expect prompt feedback when I receive the coin (because you fulfilled your obligation). I know there are unscrupulous characters out there that don't do the right thing...but you can't assume everybody is out to get you!
Edited by ratman4762
10/28/2009 4:31 pm
Locked
822 Posts
 Posted 10/28/2009  4:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scubu to your friends list

Quote:
I WOULD expect prompt feedback when you received my payment! I've fulfilled my obligation.


Absolutely ridiculous. You are also 100% obligated to have read the description and understand what you are buying. Until you receive the item, I have no idea if you've fulfilled your obligation. How can I (or anyone?) rate a transaction before it's over?
Edited by scubu
10/28/2009 4:34 pm
Pillar of the Community
United States
2520 Posts
 Posted 10/28/2009  4:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ratman4762 to your friends list
What's absolutely ridiculous is your attitude as a seller! If you walked into a store and purchased an item and left with the said item...the transaction is over!
Done! Finished! You have fullfilled your obligation as you have paid for the item! Once somebody has paid for their ebay item they have fulfilled their obligation! You are just holding feedback hostage ensuring a positive feedback which is a lousy business practice! You are assuming that Nobody reads the auctions and that everybody is a moron and is out to get you!
Bedrock of the Community
United States
12437 Posts
 Posted 10/28/2009  4:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list
ratman4762,
you have completed your obligation by paying but at that point, the transaction is far from over. Feedback is based upon the total completed transaction, not the buyer's obligation of paying or the seller's obligation of shipping- there is much more to the entire transaction than those two simple things.


Quote:
If you walked into a store and purchased an item and left with the said item...the transaction is over!

walking into a store for an in-person transaction is a completely different situation from an e-transaction through a third party facilitator
Edited by biokemist6
10/28/2009 4:58 pm
Locked
822 Posts
 Posted 10/28/2009  4:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scubu to your friends list

Quote:
You are just holding feedback hostage ensuring a positive feedback which is a lousy business practice!


Hostage? What can I do to you? NOTHING! Like I said before, you can leave me negative feedback for craps and giggles, write me a bad check, call me names, crank call me.... and I can't warn anyone that you're a bad buyer!


Quote:
If you walked into a store and purchased an item and left with the said item...the transaction is over!


Exactly. Now compare that to an internet transaction and tell me when the transaction is over. You proved my point exactly. It's over when you have the item. Period.

I'm done with you. When you sell a few hundred items a month on ebay, we'll compare notes again. You'll have an entirely different outlook.
Page 2 of 2   Previous TopicReplies: 19 / Views: 2,349Next Topic Page 2 of 2
First Page  Showing last 15 replies.
To participate in the forum you must log in or register.


    




Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Coin Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Family- all rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Coin Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Contact Us  |  Advertise Here  |  Privacy Policy / Terms of Use

Coin Community Forum © 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Forums
It took 0.34 seconds to rattle this change. Forums