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Nazi Silver Bars

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 Posted 12/30/2009  3:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trdhrdr007 to your friends list

Quote:
Waffenamt codes is the inspection mark used on military equipment by the German Third Reich.


This quote is from the wiki Bryan1315 referenced. I guess the question is whether or not a silver bar would be considered military equipment.

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 Posted 12/30/2009  8:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add snowman to your friends list
I wouldn't want one of these. It doesn't take much imagination to figure where the silver came from.
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 Posted 12/30/2009  11:19 pm  Show Profile   Check GO's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GO to your friends list
Here is a low quality pic of all of the bars that he has.

Nazi-Silver-Bars

The other bars have Silber on them. I don't think I'm gonna get it but just an interesting piece of silver. Oh I failed to mention that he wants $200 for Each of them
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 Posted 12/30/2009  11:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nic to your friends list
I agree with DVCollector, it has to have some weight indication, and a better looking swastika and "999" puncher
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 Posted 12/31/2009  09:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trdhrdr007 to your friends list
I did a search for nazi silver in an attempt to get some info. I saw several craigslist ads across the country with the same picture, along with a story about how his grandfather picked them up in France during WWII. I suppose someone could be posting in different areas but that has always been a red flag to me.

I started seeing this type of silver bars in the middle of December & now they are all over the net. IMO, this is an indication of the spread of a new scam. On the other hand, it's possible that I haven't been paying attention & these have been around a lot longer than that.
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12/31/2009 09:12 am
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 Posted 12/31/2009  1:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coins92 to your friends list

After seeing movies and reading how the Nazis got their silver and gold, there is no way I would ever want to own one. I agree with snowman.
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 Posted 01/04/2010  10:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list
So I brought photos of all these bars to a dealer friend who specializes in WWII stuff--as well as bullion.
Immediately he didn't like the WaA63; he thought it looked like a weapons mark.
While this didn't strike me at first, he said that .999 was not used a purity at the time, that came decades later.
We also agreed the ReichsAdler looks bad, and I'm bothered by the 8/Okt/42. It's usually written 8.10.42 in 3R documents.
I also don't like the "DR&D" punch on the reverse; the & symbol is not commonly used in Germany. I'd expect DR u. D or equivalent.
Anyone who knows better on my hunches--please correct me.
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 Posted 01/04/2010  10:21 pm  Show Profile   Check GO's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GO to your friends list
Fair enough


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 Posted 06/09/2010  03:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Angielczyk to your friends list
The original Blood Diamonds?
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 Posted 06/10/2010  11:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mrwisker to your friends list
I agree with some of the comments above...I wouldn't even consider these.
The price paid so far is already to high (if in fact the silver was acquired from a human source)
It is not hard to believe though. I worked with a guy that operated a flame thrower (WWII I think). The stories about him acquiring gold were particularly grizzly. Even though this guy was acually one of the nicest people I ever worked with...human life is a price way to high to pay for silver or gold.
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 Posted 06/10/2010  8:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pls to your friends list
Chances are these never saw WW II as "blood silver", as some you have stated after viewing them. Nevertheless, the method used to misrepresent their nature is offensive. I have a number of German coins bearing swastikas that do not offend me nearly as much as these do. To profit from someone else's perceived misfortune is not my idea of an exemplary business practice.
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 Posted 06/10/2010  10:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mmerc20 to your friends list
I know this thread is old but I am still trying to spread the word about these FAKES. As a militaria collector too, I did a fair bit of research and finally wrote an article regarding the bars mentioned.

Please everyone, read my article at:
http://www.mercierarmory.com/milita...article.html

and be sure to pass it around to everyone you know. People are throwing a lot of money away to this scammer and he needs to be stopped. I have already contacted the authorities but the damage has already been done.

Mike
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 Posted 06/30/2010  12:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add carmykle to your friends list
I must not be a real collector. For philosophical, psychological, and moral reasons, I would avoid these like the plague.
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 Posted 07/04/2010  10:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nic to your friends list
I just wonder why they would produce silver bars at a time when silver was valued less than nickel

they do look fake, if they can melt silver, then they could at least make better looking stamping dies
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 Posted 07/04/2010  10:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Libertad to your friends list
Maybe that "999" was a way to fool a potential buyer, especially if you buy into the "666" legend of Revelation. It's easy to believe that Hitler had a connection with 666 and forget about the bar's actual weight and fineness.
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