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 Posted 02/14/2010  8:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Morgans Dad to your friends list
Thank you BIO, but are we not splitting hairs here, one who grades can not do this or that and an attributor, who also works for a TPG'R and basically does the same thing, attribute a coin and/or grade a coin can do the things others can not!If that is what you mean when you state "it is an extra service separate from normal grading submissions the purpose is for expert die variety attribution. Because of that, I would imagine they see a significantly smaller number of coins than the regular graders. Rick Snow is another Sig Series attributor." I feel an extra service or not, they are working for a TPG'R and no matter how many coins"they see" it is all apples.

I do not see that, in you own words, the fact they see a smaller # of coins they would be able to have more "play" in their job, I mean any one you mentioned could have people send in coins for them selves, not an accusation, just a thought,Where other companies have more than one person "checking the to be slabbed coins" and attribute/grade those coins and, to me this would be a conflict of interest, no....AGAIN I am not accusing any one of anything, just dealing with the words you have chosen to use, you do not agree it could lead to a problem, and I still feel what some would have to do should be considered the same for all. Just my opinion.....


I again do not mean any disrespect, but this is all to similar and sounds like splitting hairs....
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 Posted 02/14/2010  9:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jgfindring to your friends list
My (limited) understanding of all this is that with DGS the graders (employed by DGS) grade the coins. The attribution has nothing to do with the grade and is done separatele by the signature person, who is acting as an outside consultant and only doing die attribution and has no say on or effect on the grade of the coin.
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 Posted 02/14/2010  9:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scubu to your friends list

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The attribution has nothing to do with the grade and is done separatele by the signature person, who is acting as an outside consultant and only doing die attribution and has no say on or effect on the grade of the coin.


It's still a serious conflict of interest. Sometimes the brunt of the dollars is in the attribution, not the grade. Say there's only 4 or 5 of a variety known to exist and the so-called "outside consultant" owns two of them? Declaring yours valid would hit him in his wallet. If someone can affect the value of a coin sent in, they are on the inside, irregardless of any label you slap on him.
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 Posted 02/14/2010  10:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Morgans Dad to your friends list
It is nice to see that others are seeing the same as I, I do also believe there could be a serious problem with the whole process, conflict, deception,greed, self pleasing agendas, etc. It is all possible and therefore" a possible conflict of interest!!!!Again, no disrespect intended, just my opinion, but if some can not see the topic being caustic, I think that might be part of the problem........
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 Posted 02/14/2010  10:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Podoprigora to your friends list
Can somebody give me a link to that 1972 silver quarter, thank you.
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I remember there was a post here about a silver 1972 Washington Quater
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 Posted 02/15/2010  11:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list

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How much does a grader earn? There aren't that many graders for PCGS and they sure grade a lot of coins. What kind of degree is required?


Oddly enough and as usual, the original question just slowly wandered into another world. I don't think your original question ever did get answered since it's now obvious no one here knows for sure.
As I said there are so many of these grading services popping up and I'm sure the amount anyone in any of them are paid is excessively various as it is with a grocery store.
Although it was noted not all are completely reputable or even considered acceptable, that is not the question. How much is person paid that works at one is just to various a question. And too it sure would be interesting if anyone really did know this. But even if salaries are known, would you apply for that job?
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 Posted 02/15/2010  11:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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Can somebody give me a link to that 1972 silver quarter, thank you.
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 Posted 02/15/2010  12:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coins92 to your friends list
To answer your question Carl, Yes I would.
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 Posted 02/16/2010  09:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Prethen to your friends list
I know for a fact (I must remain mum on how I know, though) that not all graders get 6-figure salaries. In fact, I'm guessing that only a minority of them do (or some get really low 6-figure salaries). There's a lot of "grunt workers" that do grading, such as moderns and the bulk submissions. These guys might make 40-50K+.

It's not all that glamorous of a job unless you get to be one of the top senior graders. Most graders will probably have a chance to see some really cool coins, but the senior graders (again I'm guessing here based on various conversations I've had with one grading company) sort of have their pick and their special area.

I couldn't imagine how brain numbingly tedious it would be to grade thousands of 2009 Lincoln cents because the submitter wants to know which ones are 70's. Plus, your in a fairly darkened room, hunkered over your desk with a lamp to see by.
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 Posted 02/16/2010  11:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list

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couldn't imagine how brain numbingly tedious it would be to grade thousands of 2009 Lincoln cents because the submitter wants to know which ones are 70's. Plus, your in a fairly darkened room, hunkered over your desk with a lamp to see by.


Indeed....I'd rather be taring a roof in August. LOL
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 Posted 02/16/2010  5:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add xshift to your friends list
Or shoveling snow in February...

Regarding the Signature Series... Coppercoins hasn't done that in a while. There's been a note on his site about it.
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 Posted 02/16/2010  5:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list

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I couldn't imagine how brain numbingly tedious it would be to grade thousands of 2009 Lincoln cents because the submitter wants to know which ones are 70's. Plus, your in a fairly darkened room, hunkered over your desk with a lamp to see by.


Not sure how that effects a person making possilby hundreds of thousands of dollars a year. I know it would really get to me in no time. To be a grader for me would have one really, really bad feature. Your sitting there and your handed a MS grade 1922 Plain and told to grade it but don't forget you can't keep it. Even worse a 1894S Liberty Head Dime about MS something and again, you can't keep it. If coins like that kept coming up in front of me, regardless of salary, I think I be running out of the place yelling or something.
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