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Dime With Faint Face

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 Posted 08/11/2010  10:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jon_883 to your friends list
Thank you for the welcomes and sorry for the low quality pictures! I hope these help more!

Dime-With-Faint-Face

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 Posted 08/11/2010  10:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list
Just a normal dime to me now.

Thanks for the better punctures.
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 Posted 08/11/2010  11:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Scooby Due to your friends list
Adam, you call that normal?

I'm not sure if that still fits in the "struck through capped die" category or not. Let's hope it is and it will at least hold some value as an error. Wait for some more opinions Jon_883.
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 Posted 08/12/2010  12:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list
Yep, struck though late stage capped die. Can you see a date?

This occurs when one coin sticks to a die after it is struck and essentially becomes a new die. If a coin is stuck(capped) to the obverse die(as what happened on this one) then the next coin struck will have a normal reverse and the obverse will be an incuse mirror image of the reverse(the struck reverse of a coin is now acting as the die). This error is known as a mirror brockage and it is quite valuable. As the capped coin continues to strike other coins, it thins out and starts to wrap around the shank of the die. This coin is now a die cap error and the rarest ones can be quite deep. As successive coins are struck with the capped die/die cap, the incuse mirror image starts to spread out and distort. This is the most common form of a brockage error. Eventually the die cap spreads so thin that it is no longer able to function as a die and a weak image of the obverse die starts to emerge on successive coins, this is what you have. I am not certain of value but I would guess about $25 or more.

Pick-up points for a genuine error would be a strong strike on the side opposite the strike-though, fully formed rim, and a normal weight.
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08/12/2010 01:06 am
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 Posted 08/12/2010  12:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Scooby Due to your friends list
Great explanation bio!

Too many times we get shortcut answers to leave our minds to wonder. This type of error is becoming clearer to me now.

Great score Jon_883!
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 Posted 08/12/2010  05:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
I looks like two planchets got stuck in the coining press and a struck through image is the result. I have an Australian copper nickel 5 cents that has a similar appearance.
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 Posted 08/12/2010  08:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list
oh I thought that was dirt.


FAIL
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 Posted 08/12/2010  11:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list
Adam - Not to be gruff with you here, but you might want to learn a little more before giving advise to those who seek the correct answer. This coin is obviously not normal to anyone who has spent any time at all studying the subject.

I'm agreeing with late stage die cap strike. There was some question in my mind with the edge-on image as to whether it was a machine turned coin (worthless) or a die cap strike (valuable). With the face-on images, it's obvious. Nice find!
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 Posted 08/12/2010  11:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add daviscfad to your friends list
pretty cool find where did you get it?
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 Posted 08/12/2010  12:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list
coppercoins- I now realize what it is but before, I thought it was dirt not a misshapen design, if I saw a different picture than I might have seen what it was, sorry, did not mean to give false advise
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 Posted 08/12/2010  3:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list
Adam_E - Like I said before this isn't an attempt to chastize or to be gruff...but people do come here not knowing who is who and ask questions about stuff that many people here DO know about. They might just trust the first answer they are given, and if it's wrong, they've trusted incorrect information. If you don't know for sure what the answer is, nobody is going to lash out at you if you don't give a difinitive answer - just say it's neat but you don't know. Someone else will come along and give the correct answer if there's enough information posted for them to do so.
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 Posted 08/12/2010  4:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add xshift to your friends list
Nicely done, Chuck.. and That's usually why I only read in this section, unless I know for sure. And even sometimes when I do post, I try to make sure to also note the distinct possibility that I could be wrong, and to wait for an expert! I still consider myself a newbie to errors, although I learn a great deal by reading these posts.

And... while figuring out the error is a skill, so is being able to actually tell the error from a non-error from images alone. Adam, what you might want to try is copying some of the pictures down to your computer (especially where there are really nice & big detailed ones) and zooming in different areas. That has helped me sometimes when trying to see something others see right off the bat, but I don't. Just a suggestion
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 Posted 08/12/2010  5:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jon_883 to your friends list
Thanks for the answers guys! If I remember correctly I got it as change back at a store about 5 years ago and I was going through my safe the other day and figured I would see if anyone knew what it was! I cannot see a date on it, just too blurred!
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 Posted 08/12/2010  8:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wolf-n-wa to your friends list
Thats the way I like to see my change. Great find there. Great explanations of the coin also. WOLF
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 Posted 08/13/2010  12:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add foundinrolls to your friends list
Definitely, as noted by some...struck through a capped die.

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Bill
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