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Strange Ebay Transaction: Resolution About-Face

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 Posted 08/27/2010  6:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add specksynder to your friends list
"I bought it from the government... it's circulated."

huh?
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 Posted 08/27/2010  8:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinguybrian to your friends list
A lot of sellers think they can just ignore people and they will go away...sadly it works sometimes.
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 Posted 08/27/2010  10:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jaobler to your friends list
The plot thickens....
The seller responded to my latest offer to send back the coin, saying that he thought the issue was resolved in his favor and that he had the money so he doesn't have a problem. Meanwhile, ebay has paid a full refund of $327 into my PayPal account as of yesterday. They also sent me a new email saying the case was closed.

Does anyone believe that ebay would just fork over cash and not expect me to return the coin? I would certainly expect them to hit the seller for the refund amount. Like, immediately!

More ummmms:
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 Posted 08/28/2010  7:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add vanbroj to your friends list
Negative feedback is in order !
He clearly violated his own money back guarantee.

Your negative feedback will hopefully save other bidders from what you went through.
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 Posted 08/28/2010  8:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add omahaorange to your friends list

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By the way, I emailed the seller again and politely told him I would return the coin after PayPal confirms I got my money back, and would he please send me his mailing address. I haven't heard from him yet.


A question: He shipped you a coin for $327 and did not include a return address on or in the package?


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The seller responded to my latest offer to send back the coin, saying that he thought the issue was resolved in his favor and that he had the money so he doesn't have a problem.


Keep the email he sent, and keep the coin for now. Give it some time. He may change his tune if PayPal takes his money back.
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 Posted 08/29/2010  11:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jaobler to your friends list

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A question: He shipped you a coin for $327 and did not include a return address on or in the package?


(Hi Omahaorange!)
Sure, there was an address on the package but I wouldn't just shoot the coin back, without a confirmation from the seller that a) he agrees to accept the coin, and b) the address is correct. That confirming email will be added to my collection of emails from this transaction. That collection plus my mailing receipt with delivery confirmation will protect me in the event that he later claims he never got the returned coin.

I'll keep all my emails in my ebay folder for at least a couple months after it's all over. Of course, I won't be doing any more buying from this character.

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 Posted 08/29/2010  12:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add omahaorange to your friends list

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Sure, there was an address on the package but I wouldn't just shoot the coin back, without a confirmation from the seller that a) he agrees to accept the coin, and b) the address is correct. That confirming email will be added to my collection of emails from this transaction. That collection plus my mailing receipt with delivery confirmation will protect me in the event that he later claims he never got the returned coin.


Okay, good thing. Just the way I read that, I though "Wow".
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 Posted 08/29/2010  2:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list
there is one flaw I read here. ebay will not refund your money until you can prove you have sent the coin back. So there is no way you will get your refund and then send the coin back, you have to prove to eBay/paypal that you sent the coin back (with signature confirmation, not delivery confirmation) and once you have that proof they will issue a refund. This is how I have always seen it work anyway, I have never seen anyone get a refund and then them send the coin back. That is a seller only option there where they get their money before you get your product
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 Posted 08/30/2010  4:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mycrob to your friends list
Jaobler is saying he got the refund already, so I guess ebay's policy is not consistent. Did you send the coin back yet, Jaobler?
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 Posted 08/30/2010  5:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RPT to your friends list
I had a friend a couple of years back that thought he bought an ASE proof but he received a bullion ASE. The seller wouldn't respond so he filed a claim and got a refund but never returned the coin. Sounds like a similar situation.
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 Posted 08/31/2010  4:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jaobler to your friends list
Still no new communication from the seller or from ebay and the money is sitting in my PayPal account. Guess I'll not worry about it for now. I'm still looking for a decent, un-cleaned half eagle!
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 Posted 08/31/2010  5:11 pm  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list
Are you looking for particular dates Jaobler? I've got an 1897 $5 Lib in PCGS AU55 with a CAC Gold Bean if you're interested.
ANA #R3154474
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 Posted 08/31/2010  6:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jgfindring to your friends list
I recently filed a claim with ebay on a seller who sent me three counterfeit Japanese Trade dollar coins. He continuously insisted that even though they weighed 19 grams instead of 27 grams that the difference was wear- they were XF instead of BU and that took off almost 1/3 of the weight. ebay decided in my favor, and had Paypal refund my money even though I vehemently said that I would NOT return the coins, as the seller would just turn around and resell them to someone else as legitimate coins.
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 Posted 09/01/2010  06:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list
thats interesting, I have only had to escalate 1 complaint and when I did I had to send the item back and have signature confirmation that it was received before I got my refund
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 Posted 09/01/2010  10:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jgfindring to your friends list
I did offer to send them to anyone ebay wanted to verfy that they were counterfeits, just not back to the original seller.
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