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Bedrock of the Community
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The 82 and 83 no MM dimes were the result of the mintmark never being punched into the die. They are varieties.
The 22 "plain" cent, the 37-D three leg, and the missing FG halves are the result of die polishing. They are just late die states.
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Conder101, Thank You for that information. I never did know exactly how the No FG's came about. Fishstix, here is a copy of the Cherry Pickers shot. Since you have the coin there in hand. It may be easier for you to make the determination. Photo's of a coin from 3 different angles can bring out 3 different characteristics of the coin. Click on the picture to get a larger version Terry  Edited by stewart
08/29/2010 10:30 am
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Bedrock of the Community
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More miss information to the un-weary new collectors......
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"More miss information to the un-weary new collectors......"
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Coop did I get something wrong?
If I did please let me know.
This is not a series that I have done much study on
and would not want to steer someone the wrong way.
Terry
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....... CPG..... Had to erase. It would have gotten me into trouble.
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08/29/2010 12:17 pm
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Coop,
Now I know what you mean and you are right.
The prices are not in line with what is really happening price wise
That is why I added the information about getting such varieties
graded and attributed. I like the Cherry Pickers for reference
to what PCGS will attribute if it is in there they will attribute it.
Then you look at something like the 1971-S S/S RPM Eisenhower makes it in the book
(Minor RPM at best) Yet a coin like the
1971-D Eisenhower Friendly Eagle (RDV-006) a coin with no less than
11 naked eye die marker, Which is a completely different reverse design
than the regular 1971-D is not added to the book and to this day is
not recognized by what is supposed to be the top coin grading service
and authority on U.S. coins in the country.
Sorry to rant, Just a sore spot
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08/29/2010 12:31 pm
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Coop,Am I going to get into Trouble?  |
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What I put before I erased it would probably have got me in trouble. A lot of the reasons why some list items and others do not is that each attributer has not seen examples yet. When they do they added them or decline not to. Probably that is the biggest reason why some do not list a variety.
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Thanks Condor for the heads up.
Makes sense as to a miscue on the dimes as the M.M.'s
were applied to the dies by hand. 9:10 a.m. monday morning
at the die table. Hey joe, u'mm I think you forgot something.
Anyway, then in a normal world the 82/83 no m.m. dime should
have a higher premium being a variety than the 22 plain lincoln or
3 legger buffalo. Maybe not !
Also then the dime is both a variety and an error combined.
The others are not errors or varieties. Too bad we could not
get more money for our car tires after they are worn down smooth :)
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Bedrock of the Community
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Quote:
Also then the dime is both a variety and an error combined. Technically it would be considered a die error, but the coins struck from the dies are considered varieties, not errors because every coin from those is are the same. |
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Thanks for all you information guys. I think what it comes down to with these questionable errors is that there is always some microscopic difference in every error that can be concieved as something different by someone else's eyes. It's kind of like hunting for Bigfoot sometimes. I think that the more opinions that we can get, will ultimately help everybody in the end. What it's worth comes down to the opinion of the person looking to buy.
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This post is relating to 1972 no fg. I was wondering if it was a no fg mark wouldn't it be on the reverse under lincoln memorial building right side. The vdm I believe is under the right arm. Also is a no fg valuable at all because I have a 1972 Lincoln Penny with no fg and it doesn't look rubbed off |
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Bedrock of the Community
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Start a new thread with an image of your coin. That way the subject can continue fresh again.
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Stuart, The Friendly Eagle Ike is in the CPG on the top of page 391 where it is listed as FS-901 and referred to as the "Friendly Eagle" Variety. FYI, we would have liked to have included far more on Ikes into the 5th edition if images suitable to CPG or coins were provided to us. The Ike Group had many images that lacked the proper contrast and were often sized wrong for us to use in CPG. These images worked well in their larger format books where they could utilize as much space as was necessary to display the coins. We even included the Friendly Eagle with some hesitation due to the lack of contrast in the images as you see when you look in CPG. These two images probably have less contrast than any other images in the book. With that said, I do know that many other images in the book were too small, etc., to be truly defining but nothing like that got past me when it came to new additions to the 5th under my editorial direction. When situations like this occur (with the Ikes) and we have boxes of other coins being supplied to us of varieties that are just as deserving, they get the attention simply because they are available. This was true of the Kennedy half dollar and the Roosevelt dime varieties where in one case an entire collection was sent to me and in the other case a batch of all new varieties on the Kennedy halves that had been amassed by two JFK enthusiasts was sent in. Larry Briggs also supplied untold numbers of coins that he brought to several Michigan State Numismatic Society Conventions for me to photograph. In the real world there are deadlines that have to be made or thousands of dollars will be lost just for being late. As such, you have to balance what is available against the time you have to get the job done and hope that the next time around circumstances will be different for areas that got neglected out of necessity. I hope that clears up why there were so few Ike dollar vars in the 5th edition. |
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I for one am not a big fan of No FG Kennedy half dollar varieties unless they can be easily demonstrated to be the result of excessive die abrasion. On many late to very late die state pieces it is hard to tell the exact cause. Some appear to show a lot of "orange peel" and a look like they may also be Struck Through Grease. I will not list these. I have no idea of what the 1972-D looks like in person as I have not seen one and cannot comment as such. Also, folks often refer to Strike It Rich With Pocket Change as being authored by me forgetting that I have a co-author. The comments in our book on the 1972-D are not mine but that of Dr. Brian Allen. He would have a much better idea of what the coin represents. In looking at the two entries on that page, I would have liked to see them described as "Abraded Die Varieties" and not be listed at all if they couldn't be attributed in this manner. Having not been able to edit (only contributing mostly images due to health issues) for both the 3rd and 4th editions, I look forward to helping my co-author work out all these small bugs. Edited by koinpro
05/07/2015 5:53 pm
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