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Pillar of the Community
Germany
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10 years already? man time flies... oh wait, I'm just getting OLD Not that old. The attack was in September 2001; seems this piece (coin, medal, gimmick, whatever) was issued to commemorate the 9th anniversary. The description sounds like that of a piece "from" the Cook Islands or so. Don't think there is anything offensive about the coin or "coin" itself - but this part about the material being (partly) from the site is questionable at the very least. Christian |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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This one of those "gray" areas (as opposed to black-and-white).
I totally agree with those who oppose the commercialization of tragedy, heck, I oppose the commercialization of anything. On the other hand these events need to be remembered. Nobody opposes WWII commemorative coins, they are much more common in Europe than in the US. There's been a number of countries who issued WTC coins for some kind of anniversaries. I don't find anything wrong with that.
Of course, one should question the source and the motive behind any memorabilia. If there's a big gap between the cost and the price - who's getting the profit!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
564 Posts |
I would not call it a coin. It has two parts that can be removed to make the towers stand up. If it's not made by the mint and not worth any value why buy it? It seems like a stupid secret Santa you would get at an office party. It goes on the desk for a few months then into the junk drawer.
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United States
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The coin you are referring to is made by the 'National Collectors Mint'. These people are not connected with the united states mint.
***Edited by Staff to remove YELLING***
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Rest in Peace
United States
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It's a simple choice: buy it or don't. I'm not. And I ran the TV in my classroom all day when it happened, but I managed to wait until I got home before I wept.
You could easily make a case for this pop-up piece of metal being offensive, but consider all the videos and table-top books and other commercial items created to invoke memories of all the operations involving soldiers and citizens who died tragically. "In Cold Blood" comes to mind - I watched the movie, but when I tried the read Capote's book, I made it about half-way through before I realized that I'd had enough of reading about criminal killers and tossed it aside. It wasn't the book itself that was offensive - it was the minute chronicling by Capote of those two deviants whom it is said that he befriended to be able to interview before they were hanged.
"National Collectors Mint"? The name itself is offensive to me. Do you buy comic books and magazines that have "Collector's Edition" printed across the front cover to add them to your collection? You'll love this pop-up item, then, which has all the panache of a happy meal and its included trinkets.
carmykle, I'm not overly offended by this offering, but I'd agree that there's probably a better way to memorialize the event. What, I don't know - but probably not by something I can easily hold in my hand. Maybe my own memories are enough. Thanks for the opportunity for discussion of this tragic event.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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they have made those things every year and they keep saying how rare and all that stuff they are every year. Its all a gimmick made by National Collectors Mint and if you read the site its not pure silver or anything like the Mint would make. This is what it says Quote:
The skyline of the Twin Towers and the silhouette of the U.S.S. New York, clad in a total 14 mg .999 pure silver actually recovered from the vaults beneath the ashes of Ground Zero, are inset with a jeweler's precision, rising up into a 3-Dimensional sculpture. When the shrinking supply of silver from Ground Zero is finished, this striking will end forever, so there is a strict limit of 5 per order. so its just metal with 14mg of silver covering the coin. Pretty much the same thing as a necklace with gold over silver, it just has a thin layer of gold over it to make it look like real gold Quote:
I have searched the INTERNET to find out what company is connected to this offering but can't find anything. https://www.911anniversaryproof.com/?mid=993011whether its offensive is a personal opinion that you have to think, this is and always be a hot bed of emotions for Americans. It was said when PCGS slabbed the ASE's that were taken from the vaults that it was Blood money and there were people that would not buy them because of the marketing behind them and people trying to make money off such a tragic event |
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Canada
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I have to agree with GO.Even though I'm from Canada,don't think this tragedy didn't effect us too.(I personally wouldn't buy any of that junk)I watch the memorial services every year on T.V. and my heart goes out to the families of the victims left behind to try and cope.Sorry if I offened anyone,I'm just spouting off. I remember very well where I was on that day and what my plans were!
LONG LIVE THE U.S.A.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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yeah I guess I should have said a hot bed of emotions for people around the world instead of just Americans. I remember where I was also and what I was doing. I was watching the morning show on CBS (I think) and they had the WTC in the backdrop and I saw the first plane hit before they ever mentioned it. I first thought the pilot must have had a heart attack or something until the second one hit then I knew something was very wrong. My daughter was less than a year old and I remember going and getting her out of bed and just holding her while the details unfolded. I also remember how nice everyone was to everyone else and how patriotic everyone was at that time and thinking how shameful it is that a tragedy like this had to happen for everyone to actually treat others the way they should be doing on a daily basis. I know crime dropped a considerable amount around here and it probably did around the country. I bet family members called other family members they hadn't talked to in years also because they knew something like this could have happened to one of them and they should be thankful they still had each other
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I remember that day, as do a LOT of people I know up here (almost everyone I know in fact) clearly, that day watching it all play out on TV, in shock and disbelief, and in grief for everyone there from a lot of people up here. People were all very sober and quiet here. I think the shock still hasn't worn off, it's all so incomprehensible.
As to a coin commemorating that day and all those people lost and those left behind, those who worked the sites forever, everyone forever changed, well, I personally see nothing wrong with a Commemorative coin coming from and with good intentions, similar to coins Commemorating our Veterans, FOR our Veterans memories. A sort of Lest We Forget symbol marking incredible events and losses, in memory of those people and events.
It also all depends A LOT! in my mind, who is making and offering the coins and for what purpose or significance. Intentions and purpose, and from who they come, are everything. If any those things "ain't right" then it don't feel right for me to buy or own one.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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It also all depends A LOT! in my mind, who is making and offering the coins and for what purpose or significance I wouldn't mind a "commemorative" coin minted by the US Mint that commemorates that day either, as long as it was like a coin that the sell would go to some type of memorial fund or something like that, or even if it was a fund for the families of the victims. But these privately owned mints making these things (since the first year after it happened) trying to make a profit off of it, that is when I think the coins and the company are dirty and I want nothing to do with either of them. You put all that together and then add to it that they say its made of recovered silver from the site to boost sales when in fact they could have had 1 ounce of silver from there and mixed it with 1000 pounds of other silver and melted it all down and calling all 1000 pounds recovered silver because you can't tell one from the other and some of the original one ounce could me mixed in with any other silver applied to every coin. At least if the US Mint were to do a commemorative of this event they would probably make it from pure precious metal, not just layered in it |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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It does strike me like immediate capitalizing on massive tragedy from almost immediately after the events then, and that would not sit right with me either. Ugh. I also like the idea as natural if some of the proceeds going back into some form of help or assistance for post events effects. I would buy a coin then for sure, like I buy Poppies every year, for the Remembrance and knowing proceeds from them are returned to helping Veterans and Families somehow. We have a lot of new Veterans needing help since 9/11 and so many are deployed as a result of 9/11 ... so some proceeds towards Veterans issues who have the issues created as a result of 9/11 would be a wonderful gesture too. THAT kind of coin, I'd buy  |
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  United States
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Unfortunately folks, I don't believe that the firm producing the coin has an altruistic motive for the offering. I believe it's pure profit.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I think 9/11 was a sobering time for many here and abroad. I had just gotten home from work. (Third shift) Took a shower and went to bed as usual. My wife came in the room hysterical, saying the United States was under attack. I didn't know whether to believe her or not. I then watched the replay of the planes hitting. I think that is the saddest I felt before and since. It seemed that the world was eerily quiet for some time after that. The skies were silent.
I agree that making a profit off of a tragedy is wrong. I will not support it. The only thing that might come out of this as good, is people having a material item to see, to remind them to never forget.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Just to keep you up to date, several well known Congressional Representatives have now taken up the call to ban National Collectors from marketing their "10 Year 9/11 Anniversary" coin. The current Coin World article is on line as I write this. Who says writing your representatives doesn't have any affect? (Although, in all honesty, none of mine were involved.) |
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United States
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I find it repulsive that anyone would try and make a profit on the suffering of others. I worked a couple of blocks away from the WTC and was there on 9/11 and watched the planes fly into the buildings. I have a memorial medal which was presented to a few hundred individuals who were there that day. While I'm sure someone would pay me a fortune for it, It's not for sale at any price.
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Posted 08/31/2010 12:26 pm
