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Ask this question to a group of coin collectors (not vammers, but average joe blow coin collectors).....
"Do you want your slab to say..... MS-65..... or...... MS-65 VAM-6" ?
(You may be surprised at the responses).
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I do try to stay out of many of the topics listed. I buy what I like and not because of hype. I will look for ones posted if I find them neat or for that matter remember. As for where it is going, who will be in "charge" I find most of it nothing more then a distraction. I for one do not need to go into space to find it amazing, or to fully know that the earth is flat! The personalities that seem to get into conflict are nothing more then a Peeing match. I try to follow one simple rule that I use at home..."Yes dear" few times have I found that an argument over anything is worth the lost of a friend.  But I "being a guy" am never wrong.... Just mistaken!  Maybe I should of added, I have no problem standing up and being counted. But when I see people yelling as it would be, I hear my father! Growing up he always said " Any man that needs to yell ...Has nothing to say!" So I see the disagreements like a fire and just move my gas can away. It's safer  Edited by twohawks
12/12/2010 12:15 am
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I can't believe how much info this topic has covered!!   All in one post............ Vamming is such an intense study full of diversity as well as idea's. however as Oz mentioned......better get your ideas and questions straight before you ask........they may or will not be welcomed when venturing into the grey areas........ BE THAT AS IT MAY BE......I think the political issues SHOULD NEVER...........OVERWHELM this hobby WE HAVE and are involved with, ....we do need to be WARNED and INFORMED, of those who would take advantage of our lack of knowledge....over pricing........ BUT THIS ISSUE IS being talked about now, and I say we should ACT rather than just talk.......it does not matter about the base collectors unless your in it for the money...... There is the ability now to openly talk about vamming and expand the knowledge, there are many here with many degree's of understanding that can help, as its not a one person has the say so here.......as well as there are many with very technical back rounds who only help in the discussions....... This would not be re-inventing the wheel.....but rather an addition tool to those who would like to research VAM's in there own way and time......I say "go for it" and continue to improve the understandings...... |
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Although I think you are getting a little personal there Russ, your point is well taken....I have been more than just a little bit overbearing I will admit, and there really is no need for it here....I am naturally very competitive, and I just wanted to prove that I am just as good, just as able, as the next person....I will tone down my rhetoric, in hopes that you will feel more comfortable in jumping in on topics that I post on....let me slide Russ, it is the season for that.
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My view is real simple. If we are going to educate: then educate. If you are going to teach: then teach. But teach all of it.
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I say we should ACT rather than just talk....... Okay, maybe I am not as good or as able as the next person (since I have evidently missed the premise of the topic now being discussed). Just what are you talking about please? Are we to rise up against our oppressors or what action is in the offing? |
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well said! So say's
I....so where to begin.......and there should be a beginning......of sorts, as I have said its not about re-inventing the wheel....but rather a starting point by which the subject can expand......All ideas are welcomed now....
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Zee I was not pointing at anyone, I do not do that. Being dyslexic I may get this wrong but I will try! ((( Vammer's UNTIE )))  All is good here Zee, Gene, Oz, Remmy, Dave, Noel and the rest. To me it is a hobby, just like my wood working. If I make an error I just pull out another piece of wood. Opp's I almost forgot, I posted it over there! I just hit my 1 year mark. Thanks to all here and there that have helped and guided me. You all have changed me from a hoarder to a collector. I would not of had this much FUN had it not been for your guidance and patience Edited by twohawks
12/12/2010 12:37 am
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No, no...I was making light of what I thought that I was misinterpreting....This forum should not be used as a platform for such a notion.
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If people attend a class to learn from the "teacher", and the teacher says one thing and you do NOT agree,or see things the same way, do you become a sheep and follow and just keep taking notes or do you stand up and ask to submit your opinion? I am saying I do not agree with all I am told/see/read and question the same.
Along these lines, what will others do when a certain co-founder is no longer available, Heaven forbid? I for one will sorely miss ( this person ) and kick myself for not asking more questions!!
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Well, the only movement that I might be interested in seeing would be a movement to bring true collectors here....as an oasis, shelter from the storm of hype and concealment of true knowledge..... I like this place because we are void of dealers and arrogant big shots who project self acclaimed knowledge as a guise for their own personal insecurities.
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Morgans dad, I think I understand what you are saying. I do not just follow and was not stating that is what I think anyone should do.
Everyone should look at the facts and make there decisions based upon them, and keep an open mind if there could be a different opinion or option. I guess what I was trying to say was. I am not in a position to make change, and some folks are set in there ways and know one will ever change them. That being the case, why try?
I agree to disagree, with no fan fare with many people, and am willing to wrong. Sometimes I see intolerance being a bigger stumbling block then anything. And VW has an issue with that from time to time, as does many forums where opinions differ.
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Mike, I really do believe that certain topics, such as the one to which you refer, are forbidden to discussion because the plan has already be decided....There will not be a void left to be filled.....those who Oz feels "are not bad people" already have covertly made the decisions and the plans for a smooth transition...and it sickens me.
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be not afraid my friends.........its all about learning not politics here..., stop and rest your weary bones and enjoy, it's not wrong to ask the questions, and no body's bashing any one here... there is much to talk about and learn....many good members and ideas to share!!more tomarrow!!
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by the way Russ I'm blind in one eye and can't see pout of the other...
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