1921-D Morgan New VAM?

I appreciate the kind words, Bryan, but Rob Joyce is, personally, the reason 1921 Morgans are becoming a popular niche, and I'm a newbie, an amateur, and second-tier at best.

Modesty aside, here's my take on the coin after closer examination and thought:

1) A planchet defect of some sort. Unlikely because the cheek strike would have flattened it.

2) Some other pre- or post- mint happenstance. Honestly, I think this is the most likely explanation. The area to the right of the marks bears closer examination - there looks to be incuse cuts in there. I could believe that some strong, edged object striking the coin obliquely from the 3:00 direction could cause metal to be raised in that fashion.

3) A heretofore-unfound extreme die break, the attribution of which will rearrange the hierarchy of 1921-D VAM importance.

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Originally posted by Becky

Post mint damage. I can see a dark line on the right side of the raised metal, that's got to be a cut.

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I don't think it can be certain just from these pictures. The dark line also caught my eye, but could be a shadow.

But like the others said, if it is a die-variety, this will be quite a find. Please be sure to keep us updated with any info you find out.

To the experts, if there was a flawed planchet with those marks, would it look like that after being struck? Raised and all? Although I am by no means an expert, all the flawed planchets I have seen have been gouges and not raised.

I have the best name for this new variety The Bear Slashed variety

jdheyne that is what would make this thing so unique, because it would flatten out with each strike so there would be very few and I mean very few with these marks because as you said they would flatten out a considerable amount with each strike

wrk4lvg, allot of people collect 1921-D Morgans since the release of "Fun with 21" came out, and considering there are so many varieties available for the 1921 series there are some big names actively searching for each variety they can find and new ones are being found almost daily

Here are the new photos. The second photo shows the area in shadow on the side closest to the ear is flat. I don't see any hint of any type of incused cut anywhere near these die gouge marks. I sent inquiries to Leroy Van Allen and Rob Joyce about this.
I appreciate the help everyone. I have no idea about how to get it verified and listed as a new VAM, much less getting it certified and slabbed.

Wow this is the reason why I want to restart on collecting morgan 21 vams this coin people this coin

hey mhburton if this coin becomes famous and if you use the bear slash name you will mention that I came up with it right?

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Originally posted by SuperDave

Michael, Leroy Van Allen is still the man responsible for determining and assigning new VAM designations. VAM is still his initials, after all.

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Well, two-thirds of his initials. George Mallis having the M

Thanks for the info. I know it wasn't what you wanted to hear, but I think this was a wonderful learning experience for everyone. Thanks so much for sharing it with us!!