1921-D Morgan New VAM?

At first glance, those looked like damage to me as well.
Would have to see the coin in hand to tell for sure.
There is no part of those scratches that are lowered instead of raised?
Jordan

Oh MY!!!! If those are not Post Mint Damage that is one heck of a find and beleive me one of the forum masters on 1921 Morgans will definately be chiming in on this one. I have to say I have never seen anything like it

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Um, I like it.

If that is a true die break as opposed to a planchet defect, and I find it difficult to explain that break away as a planchet defect, then your coin will hit the 1921-D community like a ton of bricks. The possibility exists that there might be a post-mint or pre-strike explanation for the coin, but if not, that's the biggest break ever seen on a 1921 Morgan dollar.

It is imperative that you bring that coin to the attention of someone like Rob Joyce. Just don't accept any offers on it before some sort of attribution is accomplished - you'll be able to pretty much set your own price if it's the real deal.

I appreciate the kind words, Bryan, but Rob Joyce is, personally, the reason 1921 Morgans are becoming a popular niche, and I'm a newbie, an amateur, and second-tier at best.

Modesty aside, here's my take on the coin after closer examination and thought:

1) A planchet defect of some sort. Unlikely because the cheek strike would have flattened it.

2) Some other pre- or post- mint happenstance. Honestly, I think this is the most likely explanation. The area to the right of the marks bears closer examination - there looks to be incuse cuts in there. I could believe that some strong, edged object striking the coin obliquely from the 3:00 direction could cause metal to be raised in that fashion.

3) A heretofore-unfound extreme die break, the attribution of which will rearrange the hierarchy of 1921-D VAM importance.

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Originally posted by Becky

Post mint damage. I can see a dark line on the right side of the raised metal, that's got to be a cut.

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I don't think it can be certain just from these pictures. The dark line also caught my eye, but could be a shadow.

But like the others said, if it is a die-variety, this will be quite a find. Please be sure to keep us updated with any info you find out.

To the experts, if there was a flawed planchet with those marks, would it look like that after being struck? Raised and all? Although I am by no means an expert, all the flawed planchets I have seen have been gouges and not raised.

I have the best name for this new variety The Bear Slashed variety

jdheyne that is what would make this thing so unique, because it would flatten out with each strike so there would be very few and I mean very few with these marks because as you said they would flatten out a considerable amount with each strike

wrk4lvg, allot of people collect 1921-D Morgans since the release of "Fun with 21" came out, and considering there are so many varieties available for the 1921 series there are some big names actively searching for each variety they can find and new ones are being found almost daily

Here are the new photos. The second photo shows the area in shadow on the side closest to the ear is flat. I don't see any hint of any type of incused cut anywhere near these die gouge marks. I sent inquiries to Leroy Van Allen and Rob Joyce about this.
I appreciate the help everyone. I have no idea about how to get it verified and listed as a new VAM, much less getting it certified and slabbed.