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Bedrock of the Community
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Here is what they look like taken apart:  You can see the rim is present, but next to the rim is that area the add on can be detected. |
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In reply to the discription of me, no I really haven't been collecting coins since back when silver was taken out of circulation. Over the years after 1965 I obtained many silver coins and kept them all. I really didn't keep up on mistrikes etc and when I saw this coin in the mix the other day decided to see if such errors were out there. I did have a few rolls from back when the Kennedy half was minted and just opened those a few months ago. I'm sure there are many out there still in the original bank rolls like mine. Anyway thanks for the help on this, but my question on value of this 'tampered with' coin was not addressed. Does anyone have an idea on its worth? thanks again to all. |
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At a minimum, you have silver value since it would have been made from two genuine half dollars. However, it should be worth a bit more than silver value as a trick coin/novelty- maybe $20 or so.
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Rest in Peace
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There is also no sense in having a coin dealer look at it. Most coind dealers don't know much more about this than an average collector, to be quite honest - they get way too much credit for their own merit. In fact, over 75% of all dealers know LESS about coins than the average collector. Most are just widget sellers, and if there's not profit or gain in it for them, they couldn't care less.
As an experienced dealer who used to be fairly active in errors, I'm not offended by this comment in the least. It's bad enough when someone comes in with some fake treasure that they got an "expert" opinion on from their neighbor, a minimum wage bank teller or the like, but it's REALLY a PITA when they were told by a coin dealer it "could" be genuine (which always turns into "is" genuine) instead of admitting ignorance. Especially so when they call you a ripoff when you tell them Confederate notes don't say "facsimile", because their neighbor told them it was worth thousands of dollars. I'm waiting on a return call from a lady with a fake Baldwin $20. How do I know it's fake? Her mom, who was obviously not a serious collector, gave it to her 70 years ago. Anyone care to guess the odds of a frequently reproduced (two on ebay this morning) extremely rare coin just happening to be the only coin mom had, thousands of miles from where it was made, and mom not realizing it was worth five figures when she gave it to her dottir? Back to the OP, it's a variation of the scotch and soda magic trick, a Franklin plug in a Kennedy shell, and if you'd drop it and a couple other halves four inches onto a hard surface, I could tell you which one it is blindfolded, because it has a gap inside it. I leave you for now with one of my favorite questions: "Yeah, but how much would it be worth if it was real?" (Usually about a fantasy of something that never existed in the first place). Well, gee, I'd trade you even up for my 88 Chevy, if it was a new Rolls Royce. Once in awhile, this answer sinks in. |
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For the record I meant no offense to the 25% of dealers who actually CARE about the coins, their rarity, education, and knowledge in general. Some dealers are very fine people...but they are a definite minority.
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I guess by the tone of some responses, I am just an idiot. If I knew the answer, I would not have asked. Also, I have seen QUITE a few items on Antiques Roadshow that were not the real thing, HOWEVER, had value. Sorry for bothering all you experts.
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AND THANK YOU FOR ALL THE HELP FROM THOSE REALLY TRYING TO HELP OUT! Sorry that I have been out of the collecting loop for the most part since silver was removed from our coins. Used to collect for intrinsic value as well as numismatic value but now the intrinsic values have basically disappeared. So when I found this coin in my bag of 'junk silver' just purchased-looked for an answer and thanks for it.
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You're not an idiot. You're ignorant, and there's nothing wrong with that. Ignorance simply means you don't know the answer, and that what you came here to find out.
Idiots get the answer, then insist that they're right even after it's been proven they're wrong.
I just came from a local thread where they were arguing about a historical building. I never saw so many people posting "facts" that were everything from their (erroneous) opinion to outright lies. How do I know? I was a tenant and de facto caretaker of the building for 20 years!
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Pillar of the Community
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We all start from learning. No one was born knowing it all. And I'm sure others were happy to help. Some come across a little gruff.  Don't let it get to you, we don't. |
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? huh? Neither ignorant or an idiot. Ignorance is pretty clear, just look at the spelling of the word; Ignorance is the same thing that your defining 'idiots' with, which ignorant people are idiots as well, Angel is simply uninformed.
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Yes, uninformed. I think most should be able to know that just reading my posts. I have really been out of the loop in 'collecting' like I said and didn't know if there were any issues with Kennedy halves and I had this very perfect 'made' coin. So who knows. Who ever put it together REALLY did a good job. Thanks again for all that have helped me figure it out! |
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Angel,,just for the record,,I am the family forum idiot,,so dont try to take my status,you got a three page thread,,please keep posting all the crazy things you find,,your friend,,rh13
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Pillar of the Community
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No, I won't try to take anything away! Is 3 page thread a long one here?
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Pillar of the Community
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Yup your post is on fire. Look at Modern US Variety & Error Coins link and see.
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I'm not sure what 'tone' the original poster here is talking about. I read throught he entire thread a few times and cannot find anything where anyone called anybody else anything. I'm confused - perhaps I'm the idiot.
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