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Quote: The mail has just arrived and lone behold, so did my first coin Its nothing special at all, but its certainly a start. You always remember your first! Congratulations! 
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Pillar of the Community
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thats where I started--pennies
Retired USAF 1983-2003
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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That's really cool! Welcome to the community! =) What do you plan to collect? What are you interested in? American coins or coins of all kinds, from everywhere? Interesting that you would start with an IHC - there have been some BEAUTIFUL coins from Britain. =)
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New Member
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Sorry about the late replies guys, been running around like a maniac this end  . Thanks for all the feedback! Yeah I guess it is a "dont run before you can walk" hobby tahts for sure. I'm just taking it slowly and really enjoying it, I keep diving in the books to find out everything I can about each coin. I dont expect to learn everything in a few years let alone days, but with a forum filled with helpful members, I'm sure I must be at an advantage  Jaobler - Grading for me at the moment is something I havent even started to look at, I'm sure that is a skill that takes many years to master. In all fairness grading scares me, as what I might rate as a certain grade, another may grade it totally different. Thankyou for giving it a rough grade and some useful information. To confirm yes it is the lighting, it is actually a nice burnished brown colour. Delaner - To be quite honest, I havent got an exact route I'm following yet, but for some reason I was instantly taken by the IHC, just the aesthetic appeal. I have ordered some British coins - Victoria Farthing 1860, Victoria Half Penny 1861. Also a Nova Scotia One Cent 1861. I'm not going to collect randomly, I like to have things in order and tend to complete a collection before I move on, but these just stood out. At the moment however I'm swaying towards older American/British coins. I guess half of the fun is deciding what to collect though. Silly I know - but I'm having abit of a dilema at the moment, sitting down at the table, IHC in front of me, quadrum capsule to the left and 2x2 adhesive to the right. Whats everyones opinion on what a "cheaper" coin should go in? I'm guessing its the 2x2 but everyone has seperate opinions and all. Also are both the sides of the coin meant to be on center with each other? (hope that makes sence). As if I look at one side of the coin, the reverse side will be upside down
Edited by Jr-wolves 05/11/2011 4:42 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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You will always remember your first. :)
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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 Jr-wolves, all United States coins have what is called coin alignment where the reverse is orientated 180 degrees from the obverse. Anything other than that on a coin the reverse is referred to as rotated and how much would determine if the coin has a premium for that type of error not. Typically slightly rotated reverses, less than 20%, don't have a premium. Good luck with your new hobby! ANA LM-3175
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Well JR, if grading scares you, you should probably spend some time trying to get the hang of it before you spend too much money! If somehow you've missed the link, check out http://www.pcgs.com/photogradeCompare your IHC - and get a loupe or a strong, lit magnifier if you can - and see if you can figure out which grade is which. For your IHC, since it's your first, put it in the nice holder. I highly recommend getting a LOT of whatever kind of holder you want to use since you like to have things in order. So that's cool - your drawn to coins for aesthetics and history versus real collector value. Well, I highly recommend then a '38 or '39 Walking Liberty half dollar in a higher grade. You might want to get one that has been graded by PCGS. You might also get one or two of a lower grade so you can carry it around in your pocket and admire it, and play with it. The higher grade for the aesthetics, the lower grade for the history. You'll find that it is simply a stunningly gorgeous coin. On top of that, Britain and eventually the United States collaborated on some pretty interesting, scary, and important history when the WLH's run came to an end in the mid-'40's. =) Also, you *may* enjoy some commemorative coins from the Marshall Islands. I don't know if modern coins are your thing or not, but they're kinda fun, and you can find them inexpensively on ebay, and the grades are always pretty reasonable (in other words, not something you really need to worry about!) because they're made just for collectors rather than circulation. I picked up a set of four still in cellophane for like... $10 or something! If you like the IHC, there's a chance you'll really like Buffalo or Indian Nickels, also. I never thought much of Buffalos until I looked at a higher grade one with my magnifier. STUNNING. Really, a beautiful coin - and as they're relatively common, even in higher grades they're not super expensive. The last American coin I'll suggest is the 1857-1858 Flying Eagle cent. A cool guy here who calls himself Vermontensium (after a beautiful Revolutionary War Era coin) usually has a couple on his site... Do a search on his name and you'll see the address in his signature. He's a really great guy to deal with. The Flying Eagle cent gets really expensive in higher grades, but it's still pretty easy to appreciate in lower grades, and it lived through a VERY tumultuous period in American History, our Civil War. It was front and center for all that went along with that period in our history. As for British coins, I'm really into American Revolutionary War coins, and those got me to find one - The Earl Howe Glorious First of June halfpenny of 1794. There are a LOT of beautiful halfpennies and tokens from Britain at that time, for different parts of the country. Definitely have a look as some of them are incredible for their time. They display amazing technological and artistic mastery, and they're not heavily collected in lower grades. Well, I'll keep my thinking cap on for ya, but hopefully that gives you a couple of ideas? Anyway, best of luck!! =)
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New Member
 United Kingdom
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Gyrene7483 - That makes much more sense now! I was trying to research this last night but couldnt find anything. I wrongly assumed the alignment should be the same on each side...silly me! Thanks for the answer  Delaner - Great link, have saved that in my favourites! Shows some fantastic comparisons between each of the grades, something I was desperately lacking. For the time being I'm going to put it in a 2x2 as putting all my coins in quadrum cases can be expensive, espcially as the case was nearly worth more than what I paid for the coin aha. Dont get me wrong, I am also collecting for an investment purpose too. That for me isn't a higher priority than actually enjoying collecting and enjoying the aesthectic aspect though. Wil definately be looking up those coins you have noted, they sound very interesting  . Commemoratives might not be a bad idea either, I have seen quite a few that are beautifully done, so I'm sure I'll pick up one or two along the way  Only problem with collecting expensive American coins is that if I purchase them from outside UK such as USA then customs charge me even more on top of what I have already paid...which is a major bummer! I shall check out that seller you listed though, its always good to buy from a trustworthy source. There sure are alot of beautiful Brtish coins, especially dating back to the early Monarchs. Then of course you have your medieval coins and ancient coins. So many fields of expertise, not enough time!  Thanks for all the helpful insight and giving me LOTS more ideas 
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Valued Member
United States
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FWIW, for someone first getting into American coins, the Indian Head is a great place to start. Not just an iconic coin, but a piece of "Americana" as well, emphasizing our Indian (Native American, for those who prefer that term) history. The Buffalo nickel would be another recommendation, with Indian/buffalo design (seconding delaner's suggestion). To your previous point of "I would like the best examples of each coin I can get my hand on" - you'll find you can get your hands on immaculate mint-state examples if you try. The question is, should you? At some grade level, the price starts going up exponentially. My advice is to find the grade level that you consider attractive, but not outrageously priced, and set that as your target. As an example, the 1857 Half Cent in XF (an attractive grade) goes for $144 per numismedia. MS60 would go for 300. By MS65, however, it's $1840, over 10x the XF cost. Unless you're loaded, buying that coin in MS65 will mean having to pass up a dozen other similarly-priced coins.
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Valued Member
United States
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Good for you! I only started about a year abo and it has become a semi- obsession. I even have branched out to foreign coin, some Breat Brittan coins too. Have fun!
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New Member
 United Kingdom
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That sounds liek a good idea, going for the buffolo nickels after the IHC's but thats a fair way off yet I guess  . Yeah the prices seem to rise so steeply, I think you are right by just going for what you find attractive. Its always nice to buy the best you can afford though, and secondly it has some investment value to it. I'm not loaded by any sense so will be a while before I spend silly bucks on a coin..but maybe one day  . I can see why it can become an obsession, I find myself looking at ebay seeing whats going or reading about certain coins every half an hour!
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Valued Member
United States
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Jr-Wolves, Welcome to our forum and I wanted to compliment you on your first choice of an American coin. The Indian Head cent is one of my favorites, so I highly approve. The Indian cent is a beautiful set to collect and many of the coins are very reasonable considering their age and popularity. The amount you paid for the cent you purchased was just right for the condition it is in. I would suggest that you purchase a n Indian cent album to hold your coins. That is what I have and the cost is minimal. It is an attractive way to exhibit and store your coins safely. I don't know how much one would cost in Great Britain, but hopefully it isn't much. I store many of my coins in 2 by 2s also and feel that this is an excellent way to retain your coins. I am very happy for you on your decision to become a numismatist. This hobby is rewarding, fascinating and exciting and your enthusiasm will never wane. I have been actively collecting for over four years now and I still get excited over a n acquisition such as the one you recently made. Good luck and keep reading. You can never read enough about this hobby and the more you read the more of an expert you will become. I was intimidated with the grading thing also, but time will make you an expert before you know it!
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New Member
 United Kingdom
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Thanks for the encouraging words of wisdom thecoinczar  . I think it makes it even better to be able to be in a forum like this and share your finds with like-minded people. I was considering buying a IHC coin album however they are are like £30 including shipping to get over to the UK. Also I heard some nasty stories about the whitman folders, would you recommend Dansco? I believe most of my collection will be stored in 2 x 2 adhesives and lighthouse quadrum cases.
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New Member
United States
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Jr- I'm relatively new to the finer points of the hobby as well. What I did to get a basic handle on grading is to spend a little time in the grading sub-forums here in CCF, where people will post pictures and then others will grade it below. Then you can guess and see how close you are to the more experienced members. It doesn't take long to get a feel for it. Each coin has a few things to look for; for example, the first thing I check on an Indian Head cent is the letters "Liberty" in the headband.
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New Member
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Strohbie that sounds like an excellent idea!  . I definately try that tomorrow, cheers matie
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