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Valued Member
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I didnt necessarily want a random number for the image filename, just thought it would simplify things to use the unique number as the filename and make the pictures easy to find since they would be the same. As well I dont have to come up with a file name or anything and I would already know the contents are from the coin inventory sheet.
When I chased storms for a number of years I would name all my lightning pictures similarly. I would use the word lightning coupled with the year, date and then an incrementing number from there indicating the number of strikes I had captured on film/camera. For instance, Lightning_20110527_0003 would tell me I caught that strike on todays date and it was the third one I filmed for that day.
My thoughts were to combine your tab naming idea with the unique number and that would tell me all I need to know. The rest would be in the spreadsheet itself.
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Valued Member
United States
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I've been testing a new DB for coins. I just care about the type, mint, if graded what grade, purchase price and current value. The DB I am testing does not use Excel BUT gives you the option of adding picts, Unc, Junk, place to add comments, Grade, who graded( you, TPA), ect. I hope the DB goes full production as it will save a lot of people a lot of time( except putting in all your coins!)
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Pillar of the Community
Philippines
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In Excel I'd use 3 horizontal cells to define the image name of Lightning_20110527_0003 a cell each for Lightning, date & number of strikes, total 3 cells In an Excel spread sheet each cell is defined specific, so I imagine putting in # of strikes with a date input, gives a cell two identities, which I found impossible to do with Excel. I had the same problem then about two years ago By the way, veering away from the topic, Storm chasers at National Geographic channel is one of my favorite shows! Fantastic adventures your having there Storm Strikes! wish you well ! 
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Valued Member
 United States
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Thanks for your reply Nic. I keep working on this and it seems everytime I think I have something that will work, I keep moving towards more complexity, which I'm trying to stay away from unless its just absolutely necessary.
I came up with what I think will be a suitable naming convention for the file names, which will consist of three main parts.
1. The denomination, which may not be completely necessary. But I figured I would use something like 100C for dollar coins (100 cents), 050C for half dollars, 025C for quarters and so on. 2. Include the mint mark 3. Then a random, unique number.
So in the end you would end up with something like 100C.PP.XXXXXX or 100C.P.XXXXXX. That way at a glance I could tell what the denomination was and the mint. I guess I could take it a bit further and use PP, DD, SS, PR, SP to denote proof coins, and silver proofs.
The problem is tying this all together in the spreadsheet. I know how to use the RAND and RANDBETWEEN function and concatenate so that I get the results I want but I wold rather it just pull it all together automatically. I have a column for the Mint mark but no column for denomination since I think it would be rather silly to have a column with nothing but 100C down it.
The other issue is I dont know how to tell the spreadsheet to skip cells and still include all the afore mentioned stuff. I use rows, for example A1, A2, A3, then I skip A4 as it may be a separating row between the lines. Well when you use the smart fill and input your formula then fill down, it fills every row, even the separating rows. So that is a problem.
I know people reading this would say this guy has just lost his mind and taking this way too far and making way too much of it, and they would probably be right. But I like these kinds of challenges as I learn this way. And sometimes its hard to get someone to go along and work through it and come to a solution for how I envision doing it and then say now that we've done that, lets look at this other way that may be easier than what you are doing so that I get the experience and learning of doing it perhaps a more complicated way but then also the simpler way that may even be more effective.
But thats where I stand with all this so far. I've got the basic frame work done, I just need to come up with how to generate the unique id's for each coin so I have unique filenames for each coin, I've already got the rest done.
I think one solution is to just make an extra sheet and have the denomination there in one column (the 100C) and then in the next column, the random, unique number. The issue I ran into with that is getting the sheet with the inventory list on it to pull from that random, unique number list and then delete the number it uses after it sets it on the inventory list so it cannot be used again.
Again, I'm probably over complicating it, but my thought process is if I get through it and solve then along the way I may learn something that will open my eyes and mind to a simpler way.
Edited by StormStrikes 05/28/2011 06:57 am
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 United States
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as far as having a separator row, maybe if you have that row protected (not allow input) the fill may skip that row? or another possibility is don't use a separator row, but the row where you want it, double that rows height?
Edited by Fuzzy317 05/28/2011 07:08 am
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Valued Member
 United States
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You're a pretty smart guy there Fuzzy, I think I will have to give that a try and see how that works out.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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This is getting pretty complicated. Databases are not that difficult and you can easily attached photos to your record. In fact, I just tried it to prove to myself, it took me 2 minutes to figure out.
Most versions of Office come with Access. Maybe have a look at it.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Quote: This is getting pretty complicated. Databases are not that difficult and you can easily attached photos to your record. In fact, I just tried it to prove to myself, it took me 2 minutes to figure out.
I like that part of getting pretty complicated. Very possibly one of the many reasons I keep my Excel spreadsheets to bare minimums. Less if possible. I've read what has been explained here so far about how to document a collection. I feel somewhere along the line the FUN of this hobby is going to make headaches for many way more than it's worth. Look at what you have so far and stop and think how much you really will need or want that in 40 years.
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New Member
United States
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Can anyone share an Access or Excel template so I don't have to start this process from scratch?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Send me a PM with your email and I can send one of each.
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New Member
United States
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The_Duke, I am a new member to this forum and I am having difficulty figuring all of this out. could you please send me the templates you mentioned for access and excel? *** Edited by Staff to remove email address ***
thanks
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Moderator
 United States
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Quote: Send me a PM with your email and I can send one of each. Please be aware that new members are not allowed to use the e-mail system.
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New Member
United States
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Edited by ilmoam 08/17/2011 7:22 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Quote: The_Duke, I am a new member to this forum and I am having difficulty figuring all of this out. could you please send me the templates you mentioned for access and excel?
Actually if you know the least bit of how to use Excel, making your own layout is just to easy. And if you start out with a really basic format or layout, in the far future you would probably still be using that one. Like I mentioned before. After about 40 or 50 years most of the information is irrilivant. Once nice thing about this post is it made me stop and think what I've been doing myself. I print out all my info so I can easily just flip open a binder for my info. To keep all in order I've labled each type of classification with a number. That is a 100 to 110 for Cent info, 200 to 210 for Twenty Cent Pieces and up from there. What I finally stopped to think about was how thick this 3 ringed binder has become. Thinking of all on this post made me realize to continue I should shorten even more by printing on both sides of a piece of paper. Sounds dumb that I didn't do this in the past but that's old age for you. And remember as you make a spreadsheet and your collection grows, how much will you want to record if you have many thousands of coins?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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one interesting field I came up with for my spreadsheet was "inflation adjusted face value". for example, the first coin in my inventory is an 1800 Half Cent, which has an inflation adjusted face value of 9.3 cents because in 1800, a Half Cent had the same purchasing power as 9.3 cents does today.
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