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mdpmedia, Your coin is a large date. I found a small date awhile back roll searching so they are out there. Just keep lookin'. John1  |
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Bedrock of the Community
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I've search thousands of coin and never found one. I even search OBW rolls, still none.
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Another PUP for this variety is on a small date coin, the 9 is pointed on both ends,The top loop and the bottom tail, on a large date coin, the top inner loop of the 9 comes to a blunt, NON pointed end.....Check Coop's pictures above for an example of these facts....
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Your coin is a large date. I found a small date awhile back roll searching so they are out there. Just keep lookin'. Like John1 replied....I also have found one this year.... Yours is a large date.... I'm still looking for another....and good luck to you.... |
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I agree also, large date 1970S
I've also been very lucky to have found one 1970S small Date Cent in a roll of circulated cents, so keep looking.
Good Luck!
Edited by chuckster 125
07/10/2011 09:54 am
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Bedrock of the Community
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This one's a LD, but it's possible to find them in circulation--several collectors here have pulled it off--good luck! [ip]
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Your clear photos... clearly Large Date.
But in practice, if there is wear or corrosion, combined with a weak strike perhaps... telling the difference requires developing "an eye" for it. I suggest purchasing a small date or two (perhaps less expensive examples) (from someone who knows)
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As one can see from my initial closeup photos the position of the 'S' mint mark relative to the most bottom part of the '9' appears to be more similar to the small date variety photos provided by both coop and joking.
So in summary even though this is the case I would assume from this thread that the direction that the top end point of the '9' points is a stronger indicator of the existence of a a small date variety compared to the up/down vertical position of the 'S' mint mark.
If this is not the case or an incorrect assumption, please correct me.
Thanks,
mdpmedia
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The mint mark is not an indicator because the mint marks were not part of the working die back then. They were hand stamped into the die. Therefore the mint mark could be in any number of positions. The way I tell them apart is by the shape of the loop on the 9. On a large date it is more round like a circle. On a small date it is more oblong like a football.
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Another quick indicator is LIBERTY. If you have a strong LIBERTY like in your pics it can't be a small date - all of the small dates have a weak LIBERTY. The opposite does not hold, however, as large dates can have a weak LIBERTY. But strong LIBERTY rules out the small date. Once you have one around to compare, the difference is obvious.
Oh and I found one in a roll in 2009 - it's my first "significant" find. So finding the 70S small date isn't all that impossible. Not like the 60 small date - hardly anyone has found that guy.
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Also the tail of the 7 in the date. It is lower on the large date.
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One thing not mentioned is that the small date has to have all of the attributes mentioned...not just some of them.
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Just to clarify. You can have a normal looking liberty on a small date. Does not usually happen very often but it does happen. EDS may show a stronger liberty also along with some MDS. I think the two easiest attributes are the 9 and the 7.
The nine as mentioned (blunt/pointed plus direction) Seven:
How the top bar sits on the vertical. Look at the pics. Like
a rock balancing on another (ledge) as opposed to being securely joined and wider with a nice seam running at 45 degrees.
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I will tell you after searching for sevral years. I found one the other day in 100 dollars face value of copper cents. Being never seen one in person I noticed that when I found this one I stood out. So I think if you have looked at enough large dates a small date will stand out.
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I noticed that when I found this one I stood out Exactly my same experience--they really stand out in a pile of large dates. |
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