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Makes me nervous.... There are many IHC's that look Red but are actually dipped/cleaned to simulate original mint red color. This one raises that concern IMO. If it is actually MS Red the tiny carbon spots would limit the grade to 63 at best. You have to look out for counterfeits too. What about that blob at the top of the ribbon? I don't recall seeing that kind of die break on a genuine coin. |
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United States
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This one looked odd to me from the get go, and I believe the coin is a counterfeit. The date is way too bubbly, and the denticles around the rim look weak... Compare to a genuine 1876: http://cgi.ebay.com/1876-Indian-Hea...em335de9ba59I could be wrong, but I would send it back to be safe.  Edited by johnny54321
07/22/2011 11:29 pm
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Could be the way the pics were taking but, I got to agree with johnny, the date doesn't look right to me.  |
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I think Johnny may be right on this.
Execellent observation Johnny.
The details look 'soft' on the coin.
It could be the pics - angle of camera
Can you post pics with the camera more verticle?
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You have to look out for counterfeits too. What about that blob at the top of the ribbon? I don't recall seeing that kind of die break on a genuine coin. Good eye Jaobler. There also appears to be a few blobs below the wreath 7 o'clock on the reverse that I didn't notice at first. With all of these concerns combined along with the color and soft details, I'm pretty sure it's fake. Since it's not a key, this wouldn't be a coin I'd expect to be faked; but then again, this is a good reason for the culprit to fake it since folks are less likely to spend lots of time authenticating it. It's still a $300+ coin in MS, which is enough to provide fraudulent motivation. |
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Looks like a well made Chinese counterfeit, they been active in the "copy" coins of the 1866/1878 IHC run. They are getting good at simulating MS coins. I agree with the others, the date looks off. Hope you didn't pay red MS prices for this. |
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was this a ebay or mail order coin house purchase? |
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if your unsure on an ebay coin, provide a link so, we can always take a look before you buy.. |
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This is going to be a pain in the butt for me now. Looks like I just have a conversation piece now. Did you pay for it with PayPal? If so, the return process is pretty easy. Contact the seller first and explain that you would like to return the coin for a full refund. If they refuse, then open an Item Not As Described dispute through PayPal. |
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United States
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I, unfortunately, have to agree with the counterfeit diagnosis. When you compare the date of my 1876 IHC:   You can see your coin does have the same font/style. I'm sorry! Edited by Moe145
07/23/2011 8:09 pm
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Soooo, Who wants to buy an Indian Head penny from me  I bet it would be an SGS 65 at least!  |
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Pillar of the Community
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Where did you acquire this coin? If you dont mind me asking.
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ebay Wouldnt let me end my auction because it had less than 12 hours to go. Soooo I worte the buyer and let him know you guys didnt belive it was real, and how I didnt want to take a chance of it being a fake but he paid me while I was writing my letter. I gave him an immediate refund, still waiting to hear back from him. I hope he doenst freak out. This is a big mess.
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