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I am not sure what you are trying to say dukester LOL! Are you saying this is the Real Deal or perhaps fake/trick photography? I hope you slept well last night and I assure you all that no mirror was used here. These are two pictures taken, one from each side of the coin. I like to think there is a great story behind this coin. I Believe that sometime in the 1960's, many mint employees were charged and some even jailed for tampering with the mintage of canadian coins. Could this be one of them? The Double and Tripling of the 1967 Sivler dollar is a so called result of mint workers missing with coins. Any feed back is greatly appreciated.
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Hi Nicklseguy, All imprints on the brockage struck side are sunk into the coin. The other side is raised as per a normal nickle.
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Impossible to be a MIRROR IMAGE as both sides differ in appearance. One side is raised which would be the true reverse side and the other side(Brockage) is sunken, as would be the case with a Brockage struck coin.
This is trulely a unique coin! I think the pictures speak for the coin.
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I own numerous 5 cent Mirror brockages. Mine are all Obv. Brockages with a few consecutive strikes thrown in. :-) 1964 was a wonderful year for "WILD" errors coming from the mint. I am not atempting to say your coin is fake.....I am mearly stating that someone was board at the mint. The Rev. brockage is extremeely rare, and to have a 1 cent planchet struck twice without the striking area being cleared...is like hens teeth.... I love the coin. Value it at 750.00+++ Thanks for sharing!
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Its nice to know that some people out there are aware of what happened at the mint in the 60's. I have had this one tucked away for awhile and thought it was time to share it with my friends at the CCF. Your assessment of $750 + is correct. The Errorman John R, valued it at $700 - $2000. He loved the coin and wished it was in his collection
Edited by darryldarryl 08/08/2011 4:01 pm
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Regarding stunning brokage: Darrydarryl, I am covered in shame. I am totally lost regarding your coin. I thought it was a clever photograghic trick. I should have known I was missing something as I have spatial problems. I am unable to understand how the beaver can change directions. I am not able to imagine it. Yup, I hate to admit it. I am totally amazed by this coin. I would like very much to understand Darryldarryl's first to pictures of the coin. I have long ago quit being embarassed by my spatial disability but I do owe the owner of this coin an apology as my ideas have exceeded the size of my brain. This truly an amazing coin. Dukester.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Quote: I am unable to understand how the beaver can change directions. I am not able to imagine it. Coin 1 sticks to a die and fails to eject after being struck, Coin 1 now acts as the die. The planchet for Coin 2(the coin shown) enters the coining chamber and instead of being struck with a recessed die that creates a positive image, it is struck with a positive die(Coin 1) which results in a negative image. The first few strikes are perfect mirror images which are the most valuable form of brockage. As more strikes occur, Coin 1 spreads out and wraps around the shank of the die. As that happens, the detail of Coin 1 enlarges and distorts which then transfers the distortion to subsequently struck coins. Eventually, the die cap is spread so thin that it loses all original design and a soft blurry image from the capped die begins to emerge. At some point, the die cap begins to deteriorate and fall away and then the two dies go back to striking normal coins again.
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Yes Roger, because of the Hammer Die. Most Brockages occur when the Hammer die collects a struck planchet via a crack etc., lifting it up and using the stuck struck coin (say that 3 times fast)as the die....making an Obv. Brockage. An ejection failure but next planchet fed anyways is required to make a Canadian Rev. Brockage. Sorry for the coinfusion.....
Edited by nickelsguy 08/08/2011 9:32 pm
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Thanks for your input biokemist6,nicklesguy and SPP Ottawa. I have owned this coin for some time and just learned something new about it. (anvil dies) this is why I love this forum...so much free information.
Dukester...welcome to the forum! No need for saying sorry.I wasn't angry, you just had me a little confused!
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Pillar of the Community
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What do you suppose the odds are of a copper planchet getting into the chamber then perfectly aligning itself with the centre of the chamber?
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Pillar of the Community
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he he he there is the possibilty................however.................slim....... :-)
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Bedrock of the Community
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Quote: What do you suppose the odds are of a copper planchet getting into the chamber then perfectly aligning itself with the centre of the chamber?
Probably about the same odds as a golden planchet in the US being struck with a Washington quarter obverse and a Sacagawea dollar reverse, i.e. a mint worker had some free time 
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I think I am going to sell this Reverse brockage next week.
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If you do sell it, it should be verified as a legit error (your photos are not good enough here to make that decision). I know one nickel error collector that you should contact first. He probably has Canada's foremost collection of 5c errors and pattern strikes. Send me a note and I will happily put him in contact with you.
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OK, thanks for the lead SPP-Ottawa
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