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 Posted 11/28/2006  8:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Becky to your friends list
Boy, I'm way too slow..

I think your restrike is a copy. I think one of us should ask the seller a question.
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 Posted 11/28/2006  8:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add imanangel0686 to your friends list
i was thinking that it was a copy, the books say that there was only 500 1861 Confederate Half Dollars and should be valued no less that 2000$. so to see it for 1$ seemed off but then I hadnt heard of the word restrike before so I figured id ask you all to see if anyone could tell me
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 Posted 11/28/2006  11:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gxseries to your friends list
I disagree. This is from my opinion of Russian numismatics, which is often termed Novodel.

During the late 19th centuries, Russian coin collectors desired high quality coins that cannot be found in circulation easily. Most importantly, restruck coins of impossible grade coins were struck, such as proof coins of 1700s, which is not possible with the early technology until the 1800s, where the striking technology have improved dramatically.

To say that they are worth less is definately wrong as there are some restruck coins that are actually virtually impossible to find in originals.
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 Posted 11/29/2006  10:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ageka to your friends list

A restrike is a coin that has been struck on a date later then the date on the coin . Official dies are used . There may or may not be an original of the restrike year and you need an original coin and a restrike coin side by side and an expert to tell you the subtle differences (unless of course that year is all restrikes )

Famous examples of restrike years in gold
4 Ducat waferthin Austrian Frans Joseph 1915
( still made today I understand )
100 Korona 1908 Hungary
100 Kronen 1915 Austria
50 Mexican pesos 1947
20 FF Marianne Rooster all dates 1907 till 1914

Normally these restrikes will sell at the price of gold since they are made according to the original specifications on official dies
Many people sell them marked original because they are of the right gold content which is not correct
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 Posted 11/29/2006  11:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ageka to your friends list
One of the most beautifull restrikes is the 1908 100 Korona from Hungary
Notice the broken cross on top of the crown
There is a story somebody dropped the cronw and the cross is really crooked ( another source says the designer just ran out of space )



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 Posted 11/29/2006  2:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add imanangel0686 to your friends list
wow thats really pretty looking
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 Posted 11/29/2006  4:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ageka to your friends list
quote:
Originally posted by imanangel0686

wow thats really pretty looking



Yes I personally think it is the most beautifull coin money can buy for melt
If you are willng to pay a premium I still love the St Gaudens
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 Posted 11/29/2006  4:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list
I know some old US copper coins were restruck also so wasn't all foreign coins
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 Posted 11/29/2006  4:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add imanangel0686 to your friends list
The way they were selling the restrike it just seemed too weird. 1$ seems way to cheap. I could be wrong, but if the org. is selling for 2000$ to 5000$ then the restrike should go for more.
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 Posted 11/29/2006  4:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ageka to your friends list
This is the infamous 4 Ducats a large but very thin coin

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 Posted 11/29/2006  4:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ageka to your friends list
Reverse


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 Posted 11/29/2006  5:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list
quote:
Originally posted by imanangel0686

The way they were selling the restrike it just seemed too weird. 1$ seems way to cheap. I could be wrong, but if the org. is selling for 2000$ to 5000$ then the restrike should go for more.



I think that it is shady to call that thing a "restrike." I guarantee that they didnt use the original dies and I would bet that it isn't even silver. It is just a cheap reproduction knockoff, nothing more.

Only 4 true Confederate half dollars were ever produced and in 1879, 500 restrikes were made by a New York coin dealer.
http://www.coinfacts.com/confederat...restrike.htm

In 1861, the Federal Government produced 300,000 or so half dollars before Louisiana seceeded in early February. The state then produced more halves until they joined the Confederacy which then took over minting operations until the bullion supply was exausted in April 1861 and a total of ~2.5 million halves were produced by all three governmental entities. A total of 14 unique die marriages exist with 3 made under US control, 7 under Louisiana, and 6 under the Confederacy (four marriages, one remarriage, and the Confederate reverse). The die marriages were researched in the Wiley and Bugert book "Liberty Seated half dollars."

Needless to say, all of the 1861-O dies were rode hard and put away wet so-to-speak. I do know of one particular variety, WB-102, that used the same obverse die as the Confederate strike. It has a thin, vertical die crack extending from the nose to the rim.

Incidentally, all of the die varieties were found in the hold of the SS Republic shipwreck. Oddessey Marine Expeditions is actually selling a limited number of the 14 variety sets at a price of about $27,000.
http://shipwreckstore.com/1861-0.html
http://shipwreckstore.com/1861-0diemarriage.shtml
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11/29/2006 5:43 pm
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 Posted 11/30/2006  01:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add imanangel0686 to your friends list
Thanks for the help
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 Posted 11/30/2006  01:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Brissyboy to your friends list
Australia introduced the One dollar coin in 1984, a new obverse was on the 1985 dollar with 1986, 1988 and 1992 being commemorative issues.

In 1993-94 the Mint issued a collectors' five coin dollar set with restrikes of the dollar coins of 1984, 1985, 1986, 1988 and 1992 using original dies.

In 2003 Australia restruck the 1995 commemorative 50 cents for a special coin and token folder.

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 Posted 11/30/2006  8:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list
And to confuse things even more. Here in the USA there are things called Proof coins. Noting the method of manufacture by the USMint you'll notice that a Proof coin is made by a method of each blank being restuck 2 or more times to bring out sharp, high relief details. Then there is the term used for coins that have been restruck for new dates such as the 42/41 Mercury dime.
Therefore, just one more term in numismatics with numerous explanations.
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