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 Posted 08/14/2010  6:35 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add BadThad to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I wanted to share and get some feedback on my next product in the VERDI- line. My goal is to compete with products like Dellers Darkener, a product I really hate. For retoning coins everyone knows pretty much knows about the window sill method. It works great but it can take a year or longer. My goal in the development of VERDI-TONE� was to greatly speed the process along reducing it to weeks or months to get the same effect and the same same chemical reaction without resorting to artificial colorants or harsh chemicals like Dellers. I've been testing various compositions for months now and it's time to start showing my latest results and obtaining some feedback.

At some point I will need some beta product testers, perhaps as early as next week. So keep your eyes open! Here's an example of what I think might be the final formula. What I've done during the crude testing is to impregnate cardboard with the VERDI-TONE� chemical and placed the coins on a window sill for weeks. The final product will likely be a small envelope soaked with VERDI-TONE� or I may sell the liquid directly.

I should add that the chemical I'm using is slow release hydrogen sulfide technology. So the toning process is "natural" in effect. That part of the product is not secret and it will even be in the product literature. VERDI-TONE� does not use any type of artificial colorant.

Let me know what you think. I need opinions and feedback please. The first test coins were cleaned. The 1921 was fairly harshly cleaned and has some hairlines on the obverse. The 1910 was over dipped in, most likely, an acid-thiourea commercial dip. The results are after sitting for six weeks on the impregnated cardboard with occassional flipping.








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08/14/2010 10:27 pm
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 Posted 08/14/2010  6:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
interesting...

are you going to try to make a rainbow tone?
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 Posted 08/14/2010  6:53 pm  Show Profile   Check TNG's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add TNG to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Do you need a tester? Please?
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 Posted 08/14/2010  7:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
oh, yes, i'd be intrested in testing also!
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 Posted 08/14/2010  7:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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are you going to try to make a rainbow tone?


Rainbow toning is caused by the hydrogen sulfide migrating from the rims inward. It might be possible and I've considered using something similar to the black ring from an Air-Tite to achieve an album toned look. I have not yet tested if it would work to produce a rainbow though. Once I start the silver testing phase, I'll give this a shot.....good idea.

I should add that the chemical I'm using is slow release hydrogen sulfide technology. So the toning process is "natural" in effect. That part of the product is not secret and it will even be in the product literature. VERDI-TONE does not use any type of artificial colorant.

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 Posted 08/14/2010  7:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Do you need a tester? Please?


I'll put you on the top of the list dogman! You already have experience testing and taking pictures. Just so you know, I have yet to test it on a nickel. The product has only been tested on copper so far. However, since it uses hydrogen sulfide slow release technology, it should work on all metals.
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 Posted 08/14/2010  7:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fatboy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It may just be the lighting but the "10" is great, the "21" to me looks like it could use a little more time.I have used both verdi gone and care and have been happy with both.
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It may just be the lighting but the "10" is great, the "21" to me looks like it could use a little more time.I have used both verdi gone and care and have been happy with both.


I have not yet ended the test on these two coins. I'm going to let them both keep toning. That's one of the best attributes of VERDI-TONE, it's easy to monitor the progress and stop when you want. With something like Dellers you easily can overdo the toning and ruin the coin.

Thanks for using VERDI-CHEM products!
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 Posted 08/14/2010  8:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add big777bill to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd like to see how it works on silver.
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 Posted 08/14/2010  8:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add big777bill to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
OH I meant to say that I've used Verdi-Care on some of my Indian cents and the results were fantastic!
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 Posted 08/14/2010  10:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
We'll get to the silver testing soon and thanks for using VC!
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 Posted 08/14/2010  11:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jokingjoker to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Awesome, awesome, awesome idea. I hate Dellers this will make a great addition to the VERDI line. LOVE IT!!
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 Posted 08/14/2010  11:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you sir! Yes, VERDI-CHEM products ROCK!
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 Posted 08/15/2010  01:57 am  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Dellers never did work well for me either. If this product works on silver I'm in!
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 Posted 08/15/2010  02:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wolf-n-wa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Definately gives the coins a more natural look. A little more time on the 21 I agree with. Where can I get the Verdi-Care line or read more about it? WOLF
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 Posted 08/15/2010  06:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cwb8539 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would say both are definitely an improvement!
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