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Why Buy "Junk" Silver Coins?

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 Posted 11/12/2011  02:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RMAN4443 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I can see it if someone were to collect junk silver and sell it for a profit, buy why hoard it in a closet and never sell? From some of the posts I have read, some are doing that. What is that going to do for you if you never sell?

Regularguy,i try to buy,not junk silver,but circulated.I always try to buy for less than melt,and usually I do pretty well.I then have the coins in my collection and if at some point siver goes crazy again(and I believe it will) I can then sell and make my profit and if not I still have my silver coins.It's like investing in the stock market......buy low,ride the wave,and hopefully sell HIGH!
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 Posted 11/12/2011  03:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cointagous to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I might add to that last post. Sell when everyone wants to buy as you will get the best price.
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 Posted 11/12/2011  09:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fistfulladirt to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've bought a lot of junk/circ silver and have paid over melt for most of it. I really don't mind especially when most of what I bought was at 10-12x face. I don't buy into the whole SHTF thing. I think of my purchases as a store of value. I do own some nice examples and key US silver.
What's odd is that members of another roll-hunting board that I'm on believe that purchasing collector-grade silver is a BIG no-no, saying that if things tank, those types of coins will lose tremendous value.
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 Posted 11/12/2011  09:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add angel2004 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Selling is fine if prices go back down to rebuy. I want to have PM for a true collapse of the fiat money as well so sometimes when price rise many hold as well. All depends on your purpose for the PM
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Selling is fine if prices go back down to rebuy. I want to have PM for a true collapse of the fiat money as well so sometimes when price rise many hold as well. All depends on your purpose for the PM

Exactly so, Angel. Not only that but it IS possible to have more than one reason for collecting silver coins and bullion. I know that I sure do and suspect that this is more common than not.
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I'd gladly sell my silver coins at spot, or just a bit above, if I didn't have to pay them their commissions.


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2) how well does it spend. Other than that, she has no interest in it. That WILL change if we ever get into a collapsing dollar situation, which is possible.


That has been happening ever since you were born.

Show her how money is worth less by comparing prices of stuff she understands--clothing, shoes, makeup.
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Makes one wonder how they would react to a customer coming into their shop with a pistol on his hip.


Apples + PCs. The former is to protect life and property (defense), the latter is offense.


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 Posted 11/13/2011  11:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add angel2004 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes Ed. Just what would you relpace the silver at a high price with is my thought. If you were going to replace with land or another tangible asset fine in my thinking but to just get paper to me is not my idea of making money or more importantly staying secure
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 Posted 11/13/2011  2:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lobby to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Diversification is a good thing. Putting all one's eggs in a precious metals basket is pretty risky.
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Yes of course not all the eggs in one basket but as of lately I personally think PMs are one of the best stores of value
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That has been happening ever since you were born.

No, I am not referring to inflation. I AM referring to a possible time when the dollar's value goes to zero and no one will accept it as payment for goods or services. While the probability of this happening is low, it is not zero.


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Show her how money is worth less by comparing prices of stuff she understands--clothing, shoes, makeup.

Not a problem there. She understands this perfectly well when we go to the grocery store together and see a bottle of grape seed oil selling for $12 that 3 months before was selling for $6.50. A lot of other prices are up as well but none so dramatically.


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Apples + PCs. The former is to protect life and property (defense), the latter is offense.

Guns are only tools. "It is the hard heart that kills". The shop people would claim that they have a right to be armed and I would agree with them on that. Of course, I also have that right. If they can't understand that, I can always shop elsewhere. Personally, it does not upset me when good people arm themselves.
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Yes Ed. Just what would you relpace the silver at a high price with is my thought. If you were going to replace with land or another tangible asset fine in my thinking but to just get paper to me is not my idea of making money or more importantly staying secure

I guess that would depend on the nature of the situation at the time and what my needs were. If I could trade an ASE or a Maple Leaf for a couple of bags of groceries, that might be a good trade, depending on the situation at that time. I don't feel the need to be selling any of my silver just to make a few dollars here and there. No, for me silver is a store of value and an insurance policy against terrible financial times.

During the great depression, many people suffered due to a lack of money. It was bad enough that unemployment was very high and people could not earn much money but the Fed actually reduced the money and credit supplies during those times, which is exactly the opposite of what was needed. Stuff was available to buy but only those with money could buy it. People who had money, such as gold or silver, could buy a lot of things and often at pennies on the dollar. Silver IS money, IMO, and has been for a VERY long time. It cannot be debauched by an incompetent government or central bank running amok and over-printing it.

While there is no perfect answer to all possible financial problems, having some hard currency, such as silver and gold, is a pretty darned good one and better than any other I have seen.

I also agree with those who say not to put everything into one basket. I like PMs a lot but would never be "all in" on them or anything else for that matter. I also like energy companies, utilities, and agricultural commodities.
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 Posted 11/15/2011  7:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JSH to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The coin shop had a sign outside stating no firearms were allowed inside. It is a pretty standard sign since my state is a "Right to Carry" state. Again, the whole place struck me as odd. The security was way too tight for the area and the inventory didn't seem to be large enough to support the salaries of the owner and his two sons.

For me it was a test case. When silver dropped to $28 per oz. I purchased some 90% from an online store. I looked through it and pulled out the coins I wanted to keep. I'll shop what I don't want around and see what kind of percentage shops offer. This shop failed miserably so I won't bother going back.
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I really appreciate everybody who has contributed to this thread (even if the topic has wandered a bit far afield). It was very educational! I now understand that the advantages of buying "junk" silver coins are basically as follows:

1. You can usually buy it at or slightly below melt value without the premium you have to pay for other forms of silver.

2. It's not as likely to be counterfeited and is therefore more likely to be accepted if and when it comes times to cash it in.

3. It's easier to use junk silver coins to purchase things with, since they are a known quantity and are available in a variety of different sizes and weights -- you don't have to break up a chunk of bullion or convert it to cash before spending it.

I think I'm pretty much sold. I don't at all regret buying the BU and AU silver coins I have purchased previously, nor the ASE coins. But going forward, if I do decide to purchase more silver purely as an investment in silver (without regard to numismatic or collector value), I think I'll definitely go for a nice bag of pre-1964 quarters, dimes and halves.
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