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 Posted 03/05/2012  06:40 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add deanjh to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi I would appreciate your help, I think the coin is:
Bolivia. 1676 E 8 Reales. Potosi mint
Any help is very welcome as I don't know anything about them. Thank you

Identity confirmed - moved to World Coins forum - Sap
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03/05/2012 1:55 pm
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 Posted 03/05/2012  07:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tights24 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hello Dean and welcome. I took the liberty of moving your post to the proper location. What is preventing you from uploading the picture? Chances are it's the size of your picture. Make sure you reduce the size to be about 500k x 500k and you should be ok. Check the properties and make sure the file itself is under 100kb. The picture will still be large enough to identify.
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 Posted 03/05/2012  07:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add deanjh to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks, and yes it was the picture size. The picture isn't the best quality but I hope I get some information about it
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 Posted 03/11/2012  07:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry for overlooking this post - I'll move it out of ID Required and edit the title to attract the attention of the Spanish Colonial experts we have.

Before we begin, it should be noted that the vast majority of Spanish colonial silver coins from the 1600s are very crudely struck "cob" coins, which are irregularly shaped and usually have much of their design missing. This coin, being round and with all of its design clearly visible, isn't your typical cob coin; it's purporting to be a presentation or "royal" coin, which is much scarcer and more valuable. If genuine, it would be worth thousands, even with the hole in it.

I would, therefore, start from the assumption that it is a replica, and try to disprove that.

First off, the hole itself makes me suspicious. These coins are suposed to be thick and heavy; the place where the hole is punched through looks rather thin.

Second, the appearance. It has the look of a coin that has been given a silver "wash" which has degraded over time. Now, that could just be strange toning, picked up from sitting in collections for several centuries. But it makes me suspicious.

The clicher will be the weight. If it's the thin base-metal replica that I suspect it might be, then it won't weigh anywhere near the 27 grams it is supposed to weigh.
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 Posted 03/11/2012  09:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add realeswatcher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Known replica of a Royal strike, as SAP mentioned... pops up occasionally. Note the identifying doubling on the right spoke of the cross. Likely a copy of a known Lazaro type (Lazaro is the author of the book specifically on these Royal presentation versions of the normal cob-style strikes)...

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 Posted 03/11/2012  5:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jfransch to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is listed in the Sedwick online list of fakes as #FC53660
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 Posted 06/30/2014  1:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Deleon1776 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just some historic FYI, Often privateers or pirates if you prefer would strike a hole with a nail or tool. This is because their clothes were normally very worn & torn their pockets normally had holes in them so they would tie a string to the coin and then to their belt so they wouldn't loose their money during a skirmish or even a rough storm. So it is not odd for these coins to have holes punched through them...just not drilled.
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