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1971-S Ike DDO

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 Posted 02/17/2007  3:10 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Southern Yankee to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi folks, was wondering what you think of this being a DDO. This was from a 40% blue pack. Looks to be a later die stage which makes it not show as well. I haven't found any info on it only on the proof ones. The date shows similar but I didn't get any pix up of it.

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1971-S-Ike-DDO

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Thanks for looking.
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 Posted 02/18/2007  4:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Southern Yankee to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Joe. Gives me a place to start.
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 Posted 02/19/2007  09:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is a doubled die, no question about it. The only question I would have is whether this is master die doubling - meaning that the master die was doubled and transferred to the working hubs and working dies it made. If this is the case it would be on probably half the coins made that year and wouldn;t be worth anything extra. If this is a case of single die hub doubling, then you've got something that's really worth investigating.
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 Posted 02/19/2007  8:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Southern Yankee to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is very interesting what you said about the dies coppercoins. I really don't understand how one could know which one was the case unless it is from quantity. Wonder if it would be worth it to have someone look at it that deals in this kind of thing as I do not know enough about it to probably determine anything. Thanks coppercoins.
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 Posted 02/21/2007  10:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The way to tell the difference is to find the exact same doubling on a number of different coins struck by different dies. If this shows up, then we know that at least the hub that made all the dies in this group was doubled. More commonly than not, it's the master die that would contain that doubling.

How do we tell the different coins were struck with different dies? Because the markers don't match. Same doubling, different dies - one develops a die crack, the other doesn't. We end up with the same doubling on a bunch of coins, some with a die crack and others without.

MANY of the Eisenhower dollars issued were doubling to some degree. There was a lot of master die doubling in the series, and I'm no expert to tell you which ones are and are not the result of such doubling.
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Though I can't be 100% positive, but it appears your coin is listed in my reference "The Authoritative Reference on Eisenhower dollars" that I co-authored with John Wexler and Kevin Flynn as 1971-S WDDO-006.

It is not master die doubling.

Congrats on the nice find!
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Thanks coppercoins. Just figuring out the doubled die process has been tough. So many different types. Its starting to come together though.

Thanks for that info DieVarieties. What does the W stand for in wddo?. I haven't seen this book. Will have to look around for it. There wouldn't be any online reference to this that you know of would there? Again thanks.
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"What does the W stand for in wddo?"

W = Wexler

The book is long out of print. I haven't been able to find any copies.
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