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1919 Quarter For Grade

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 Posted 04/06/2013  5:44 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add thusdayclub to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello:) What do you think about this SLQ? In my opinion some details are nice and sharp, like breast/chainmail, shield and feathers, but surface is dark and hmm dirty? This is patina or some kind of surface damage? I haven't this coin yet,pics are from seller and were taken through the plastic holder, so there are "fuzzy" places, but I think you can say something about the state of this quarter. What do you think, how much is it worth?

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 Posted 04/06/2013  8:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dsfreeworld to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
toning darkly perhaps
i would want to see it out of the flip and better cam shots
bump it when it arrives
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 Posted 04/07/2013  8:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jack jeckel to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would go AU53, maybe AU55. The right knee and lower leg show wear along with the chain mail and the right wing of the eagle shows wear.

SLQ's are hard to grade and it seems each year has their own standards.

There are XF graded 1924 coins where you can barely make out the date and some recessed date years with no center shield detail, missing rivets, most of the chain mail patern missing, and the grade out at MS65.

PCGS MS67FH

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NCG MS67FH

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 Posted 04/08/2013  11:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thusdayclub to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So why they grade this coins MS? Because of luster? Details aren't sharp and clear. My coin seems to doesn't have any luster, only this "dark thing" on surface:) But details are a bit clearer and sharper. My inquiry may seem strange to you, but I am a novice collector:)
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 Posted 04/08/2013  12:24 pm  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I much prefer the 1919. What a beauty !
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 Posted 04/08/2013  12:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would grade this as EF45, however, to me, it appears that this coin may have been cleaned a while ago and retoned. anyone else comment on this?
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 Posted 04/08/2013  1:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thusdayclub to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
52Raymo you talking about my coin?:) panzaldi - you break my heart with this EF45:) I thought that the AU is quite sure, but as I mentioned, I'm an amateur.
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 Posted 04/08/2013  1:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinsKelly to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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So why they grade this coins MS? Because of luster?


This series is notorious for weak strikes. Any coin can be MS with weak details, all that matters is that there is no wear on the coin. The cream of the crop for the Standing Liberty quarters will have full head details and you will see FH as the notation. These command a premium. Luster does play a part in determining grade but it is the lack of wear that will make it MS, and lack of hits(usually from being transported in bags)and strong luster/eye appeal that will help determine the MS grade.

I really like your 1919.
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sorry about that thusdayclub. I am not an expert on SLQ, however, there appears to be more wear, particularly on eagle wings and the high points on the shield drape and lady than I would like to see in an AU coin. look closely and you will also see wear on the stars and some of the lettering. jack jeckel is correct in that certain years are harder to grade. it could pull an AU50, but I would be surprised.
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 Posted 04/08/2013  2:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thusdayclub to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ok guys, so far I do not write how much I paid for this coin. Please write how much is worth in your opinion, I'm curious how much money will be here:) I know that it is difficult to estimate with these photos, but it's just for fun.
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 Posted 04/08/2013  3:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Remember, grading is subjective...I would value this coin in the $110 range
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I think it could grade AU-50. The amount of wear looks consistent with an AU coin. I don't see any mint luster which is something I usually see on AU+ coins from the 20th century and that makes me a little uncomfortable giving it a higher grade. Numismedia values it in AU-50 at $106.
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 Posted 04/12/2013  01:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm in at AU50 at least maybe 53, though I could see a TPG putting it in an EF45 holder just as easily. Tough coin to grade from static photos, need to have this one in hand and under a good lamp!
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